Need help! Test E, Dbol, Deca
Hey Guys
So I took your advice from before and waited a full 6 months before my next cycle. Lowered my expectations and will be going with a more common cycle. Looking for some advice as to whether or not my plan looks appropriate. Diet is in check and meal plan prepared. I gained about 15 lbs on my first test e 500 mg / week 10 week cycle with 40 mg dbol weeks 1-4. I Maintained 10 lbs
Stats
6 ft
190
7% bf
29 y/o
Yes, I am lean. No, I cannot get to 210 by changing my diet/workouts. My Dad is 6 ft, works out daily, and never has weighed over 165.
10 week cycle
Test E 600 mg week 1-10
300 mg 2x/ week
DBol 280 mg week 1-4
40 mg daily
Deca 500 mg / week 1-10
250 mg 2x/ week
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD week 1-12
Increase up to daily if needed
Caber .5 mg weekly 1-12
.25 2x/ week. Can increase .25 after 4 weeks if needed up to 1 mg / week
PCT 12-16
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 20/20/10/10. Read taking nolva in lower doses was more beneficial when using Deca.
Aromasin 12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25 (EOD) so pretty much I plan on running aromasin from week 1-16.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys
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I feel like this is too much for a second cycle personally. Would probably be a good idea to drop the Deca and the dbol
Can you put up a pick to see what kinda base you got? 7% bf your primed for a good bulk, its time to blow up, forget the 3400 calories, go straight to 4000, up the protein to 2g per lb of bodyweight, workout like a man possessed by the devil and get as much sleep as you possibly can and you will blow up. There is absolutely no need for deca, the results from test deca vs just test at your stage will be extremly similar, you might gain a FEW more pounds of muscle with the deca but at the expense of extremely harsh HPTA shutdown, possibility of deca dick, leaky nips etc. all you need to reach your goals is some quality test, and some dbol. The deca and caber was probbly gonna cost you like 200 bucks right? use that extra money to buy pharm grade test, its actually not that expensive, maybe10-20 dollars more per 10ml vs ugl. 500mgs of test for 12 weeks with some dbol the first 4-5 weeks will blow you up, it all comes down to your diet.
read this. https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/for-the-average-...
So my gear arrived and looks great. I hear everything you've said about Deca but I'm stubborn. What if I changed the dose to 300 mg split over 2x. Run for only 8 weeks and increase test to a 12 week cycle at 500mg week? Sound safer? Keep everything else the same
No pictures at this time. Tatted up and still not so comfortable being noticed. Paranoia, I know.
I got pharma grade and already have the Deca. I hear you though. Seems like everyone agrees it's too much for me. Now I have to spend the next 10 weeks staring at 2 full vials!
I'll do my best. Advice is what I asked for.. Not approval
Just run the test e.
So you're 7% bf all year round
You have to eat bro period to gain that's just the way it is nothing else is going to help you get size without food. ...
Gear is just the icing on the cake.
Drop the Dbol and Deca
unreal89At 6ft 190 and your at 7%bf you need a test only cycle and eat like a horse possibly work youe way up to 4000-4500 cals a day
This is my second cycle after taking 7 years off. Yes, micros, macros and cal diet planned for
What are they?
2nd cycle then absolutely no need to be running a 19-nor.
So my gear arrived and looks great. I hear everything you've said about Deca but I'm stubborn. What if I changed the dose to 300 mg split over 2x. Run for only 8 weeks and increase test to a 12 week cycle at 500mg week? Sound safer? Keep everything else the same
Based on the protein I will be taking and n estimated metabolic rate I would try to stick around 3400 calories as I am also not doing dramatic amounts of protein / fats. Carbs will still be fairly low and I do not have an active job
Is the Deca too much? I was really looking forward to that. What are the additional concerns around that?
To sum it up:
Protein 1.25g/ lb
Fats .5g / lb ( still want to be lean during cycle)
Carbs 2g/lb
Mix of daily vitamins and fish oils
2 cups raw vegetables daily
Brother, with your stats if you can't make huge gains off of just a test e cycle and lots of food there ain't nothing in the world that is going to help you, including Deca. So focus all of your efforts on your diet and use some test e to help keep you in positive nitrogen balance and you should grow like a weed. Deca isn't going to make a bit of a difference here except for a much more difficult PCT.
Your 7% BF! How lean do you expect to be. It is not healthy running around with that low of BF.
No way, no how are you going to gain any weight with that breakdown. That's a cutting diet.
I appreciate the feedback. If that diet is too lean then I will definitely increase. I grew up wrestling year round, since I was 5. Lean is all I've known but I understand to reach my goals I'll have to adjust to carrying some weight.
Suggestions on diet or link to a forum?
Read through some of my posts and jump into the Training/Diet section.
Here are some to get you started
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/the-key-to-quality-mas...
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/i-know-my-tdee%E2%80%A...
Is this going to be your second cycle then?
Your diet is in check, what does that mean? Cals and macro split would shed a little more light.
This is my second cycle after taking 7 years off. Yes, micros, macros and cal diet planned for