Test-E, NPP, Masteron + Tren cycle. Your opinions.
Hey guys.
This will be my 5th cycle,but my second within the last 5 months. Previous cycles were in my early 20's. Anyways, my first cycle was a 10 week cycle consisting of 250mg test enanthate 2 x per week ( 500 mg weekly for weeks 1-10), dbol at 30mg/day for weeks 1-4, aromasin daily for weeks 1-12, weeks 12-16 the usual nova and clomid. 50/100, 50/100, 25/50,25/50.
Strength gains were huge, size was ok. This was primarily due to my diet, but I was looking for more of a summer bod anyways.
On this cycle I want mass. This is what I'm considering and would appreciate your insight:
10 week cycle
NPP weeks 1-8 @ 400 mg/week
Test Enanthate weeks 1-10 @ 600mg/week
Masteron weeks 1-10 @ 200 mg/ week. (Primarily as an AI)
?should I do Masteron prop or enanthate?
Tren weeks 1-10 @ 400 mg/week
? Should I do TrenA or TrenE.
Ancilerries:
Caber .25 mg 2x per week
Arimadex @ .25 EOD
Maybe, HCG @ 250 in 2x per week for libido....?
PCT
Weeks 12-16
100/50,100/50,50/25,50/25 clomid and nolva
If you guys think any of this is over kill or doses need changing, please help. Your expertise is appreciated.
Stats:
30 yo
6 ft
190 lbs
8% body fat
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Redo your cycle and I would drop the tren and NPP! By time your npp kicks in your test won't lock-in for another 3 or 4 weeks... I don't suggest tren for a mass cycle... I would run test e mast e and a dbol kicker..
This looks complicated and it doesn't need to be. Masteron dose help, but you can't run it for an ai purpose. Plus you already have Arimadex in your cycle.
The hcg is to help your body not shut it self down or not as hard anyways. Don't take it for libido help. That's why you're running the test higher than the npp to begin with AND that's where caber comes in my friend.
Personally I wouldn't run the cycle yet anyways because it sounds like you need to stay off a little longer. Plus at your height and weight it sounds more like you need more food if you want to grow. Also don't agree with short cycles when trying to put size on because the first four weeks don't even count.
Everyone's entitled to run whatever they like, I don't like when people rip people on forums. If it was me running these compounds I'd go like this
Test E-6001-5 then 400mg 6-10
NPP 300-400mg. wk 1-6
Mast p 300-400mgwk 7-12
Tren a. 300-400mgwk 7-12
If you're just using mast for AI I'd just run an oral like var/Winnie/Tbol 50-75mg, you have arimidex(aromasin would be better I think)
Basically logic is to fill out as much as you can while keeping bf down as much as you can. Then half way through I'd harden/shred up all those gains. Id extend the cycle 2-4 weeks if you follow this logic
I believe in lower dose longer cycles. Plus always last 4-6 weeks of hardening up those gains with var.
Then let them run whatever they like, but don't encourage them to run foolish cycles and add to the insanity.
True that buttercup!
If this will be your 2nd cycle in 5 months that is not enough time off from the 1st, it's time on plus pct equals time off so that's 1 cycle every 6 months or so not one right after pct.
Honestly your whole cycle is trash .. You say you want to put on mass but this isn't the way . Trash it start over putting quality mass on doesn't happen is 8 weeks or 10 it's a process that starts in the kitchen and Carries over to your training . Never once did you post calories or protein or carb intake? Start there first cause your cycle tells me you don't know what your doing . No offense
Agreed, and adding on to him, you mentioned on your first cycle that "size was ok".
Your first cycle is where you blow up if your diet is right