posted Sun, 09/04/2016 - 11:37
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Real or Fake Steroids Veterans please help!!
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Ok guys..Here is the question? How do you know..that your are really pinning what the label on the bottle says?
I do not send my juice to a lab for testing..I know TNE &Tren ace have very distinct smells.
How do you know primo is primo,,and not EQ?
How do you know masteron is masteron and not test prop?
What are the tests you veterans use? That will help us in determining the authenticity of our gear..
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Bloodwork, and being aware of the sides .
You can also piss on a bottle and have it tested , it will tell you exactly what you are on . ($150)
Ace VenturaWhat do tren ace smells like?
300 Savagea very specific strong chemical smell..
that's the solvents you're smelling. guaiacol has a very distinct "chemically" smell. typically used in TNE. if you've ever smelled raw material there's really no distinct smell that could definitively distinguish what hormone it really is. some have a pine, or earthy smell to them, tren can have a yellowish hue, the more yellow it is the older the material is from oxidation. and eq is liquid at room temperature. oxandrolone has a different texture than most other hormones, almost like a salt, tiny grains of crystalline hormone rather than powder, same with mesterolone. but besides that... as far as i'm concerned. theres really not much more one can do to distinguish what hormone it is unless doing a well executed melting point test. but once its in the vial and brewed... good luck.
300 SavageGreat reply..thank you..
Pretty labels and Srcs who call me bro. That's enough for me
300 SavageReally poor reply Carlos..That reply helps no one at all..
I 100% unequivocally was not intending to be helpful in my reply whatsoever.
With so many forum posts on labmax and other test methods I'm surprised you or any newb still need to ask the question. With a little research and basic effort anyone should be able to find that in less than 5 minutes. Hellraizor's testing history should have been enough to make anyone realize that it's pretty much safe to order wherever he is spending his hard earned money. I log in to this site maybe a total of 1-5hrs a week and sometimes not at all and I know that Sir. Why are we spoon feeding?
300 SavageThank u Carlos..you were a great help..
Legit source reviews are one really good way to make sure that your getting the real deal. Reading a real up to date review from a credible person saying that they used this product recently and it was legit, is the best way to know your gonna get what you pay for.
Some shady sources have obviously faked reviews. The really obviously fakes reviews show that they cannot be bothered to do business right or don't have much business at all.
I think pics will help determine and then again some of the best trainers aren't jacked at all..
Without a real chemical test, you can't be certain. Also, any lab that want's to make quality gear can do so.
That said, I just feel more comfortable buying products from a really big machine automated "pharma" style production lab that produces huge batches of chemicals. This is only my opinion, of course, but I just think it is less likely that a lab that is running off 10,000 vials of Test E is going to make shit. Any guarantee? No. But, that's the only "precaution" I think is available to most of us.
300 SavageNice post...
You have to look at the side effects you're experiencing.
If you think you're taking Anavar, but you're getting sore joints, you're probably taking Winny.
If you think you're taking Anavar, but you're getting bloating, you might be taking Dbol.
Trust in a source is everything. When I see a product read "Out Of Stock", I like it because in my mind it shows the company isn't trying to push a compound under another name.
The more expensive compounds are the ones more likely to be faked; Anavar and Primobolan are probably the most often faked.
As for EQ vs Primo; EQ has been known to cause anxiety, as well as raising blood pressure.
If you're dealing with a company that prints "lot/batch numbers" on its products, then keep track of those, and monitor reviews from that company's page. Look for others experiences.
All of these are factors when trying to determine if a product is authentic without a test.
Good luck and happy lifting all.
300 SavageGreat reply for the newbies who will be reading this..
300 SavageThis post is meant for newbies and novices..I have a great source..Im more then fine..
Im looking for great responses form veterans.to help youngsters..Thanks
It all comes down to a few things .
Trust in the SRC and reputation and reviews from members
Experience with the gear your running what to look for expected sides and how you feel while on it.
Lastly it's going to happen your going to get bunk gear or gear passed off as a different compound just have to be aware and know your body
300 SavageThank you..finally a good reply..
300 SavageWhat are the tests you veterans use? That will help us in determining the authenticity of our gear..
RustyhookerTrial and error. Shady sources are just shady. I got some fyre winny from a long gone ALL CAPS LOUDMOUTH....it was dbol. Lol
LOL!!!! I meant about the loudmouth part not the fact you got dbol for winny.
RustyhookerBut it was fyre! Lol!
300 SavageWho is a loud mouth?
RustyhookerThe long gone source was like having a gorilla on your back.
I think rusty meant the loudmouth was the source owner who typed in all caps- haha I got two in mind
I remember seeing all caps a few times...
300 SavageGot ya..
RustyhookerHaha...bingo
Anaboliclab of course posts a lot of testing of products. Some are skeptical of their potetial biases, so you can form own opinion. Other than blood tests while running testosterone, it seems to be the only current option for validity outside of funding tests yourself. Not many of us will do this though obviously, so past experiences with manufacturer along with anaboliclabs reports, amd blood tests is what I use.
300 SavageYes Sensi I have seen that anabolic lab..But are they up to date?
Not sure. Looks as if the last tests were in May 16? If nothing else it can be used as a reference to see a particular labs trending data. Obviously not all labs are represented, but I still think it can be used as reference in some cases...UNLESS we find out the whole thing was a hoax....seems it has happened before.
I got a batch of anavar that was actually dbol! Stuff didn't feel like anavar so I confirmed it was actually dbol with a labmax kit. Unfortunately, for people trying a compound for the first time they may be clueless because they don't know what to actually expect because they have never ran the real thing before.
Probably best bit of advice is to stay away from all these brand new sources popping up overnight, especially the unverified ones if you are new to running a certain compound and aren't familiar with the sides/results of that compound. Stick with the tried and true sources when trying out a new compound for the first time so that you have some reasonable assurance that it is what it is supposed to be. Then you can dip your toes into these one night wonder sources with the unbelievable prices and at least know based off of certain sides and effects if the compound is actually what it is claimed to be. Can still be a crapshoot sometimes though.
300 SavageI saw a post form a verified source that was selling tren ace as test prop..So i wonder how many more are doing the same thing?scary stuff..
Testrogen_PropC...Roid test. It'll show you if your compound is what it's supposed to be, but it won't show you doseage unfortunately. I've been able to find lab testing doseages on products I use and although my batch numbers are different than theirs, I'd say that gets you in the ballpark. Beyond that I'd imagine you could only go by feel from experience as to what's what and if it's under/overdosed. I have heard of a test for real/fake primo by checking it's viscosity by tipping the ampule, but I'm not personally sure if that one is correct because I've never used primo or a faked primo.