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Buddy is wasting his cycle, and now wants to extend it and up the dosage? WTF?!

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So my buddy is on his first cycle. It's a simple one.

Week 1-12: 500mg Test-E
PCT is Nolvadex : 20,20,10,10
Arimidex during cycle if signs of high estrogen occur.

Here is the issue I have. I give a shit about this guy, he's a good dude. But he's in week 10 of his cycle and has seen very minor gains. I would know, since I'm running the same cycle and I'm up 25 lbs. He's up about 8-10 pounds. (Maybe less, because he could be lying to me). I honestly dont see a difference in him, at least no difference that he couldnt have achieved naturally.

He just started lifting again a month before he started his cycle. I told him it will have a very small effect because he has virtually no base on him, therefore the test has nothing to work with.

So, obviously his cycle was a waste of time, but now he wants to extend his cycle to 16 weeks, and up his test to 750mg a week. I don't see a point in this. He's already battling gyno, ED, and fatigue, so why stretch this out any longer and do further damage to his body?

Let me know what you think about this, because this is what I told him to do:

Finish your 12 weeks as originally planned. Finish you PCT and hit the gym for 4-5 months natty before even deciding to do another cycle. This way he will actually have a little base built up for the test to build on.

What do y'all think?

robxl12321's picture

Fishing much...

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gruntstyle's picture

Yeah this sounds like a perfect thing someone who isn't of age will say

Catalyst's picture

Can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink....

By the way, you're 23, not 27

https://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/workout-exercise/pr...

In case it's too much bother to click on the link to show you what you typed, here it is

Alright, before I get the runaround for being on gear at age 23, I get it. I'm currently in my 5th week of Test-e at 500mg per week for 12 weeks. I'm keeping it very simple and clean, and do not have a long-term attitude toward using gear.

In your profile:

Stats
Age: 27
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 208
BF: Haven't measured.

When you lie, you need a decent short term memory ;)

You're no better than your friend. You think you know better than others advising you against what you're doing as does he. Sounds like you've got a lot in common. You should keep your head down out of sight at 23 years of age on this site rather than posting bollocks like this.

true grit's picture

Super sleuth, lol

IrishMack's picture

His "friend" is actually himself trying to skate around cycle advice due to his age. Good grab Cat. Hopefully others that gave advice can start looking at stats and forum posts before giving advice in the future.

Catalyst's picture

You're probably right about that, I thought the same thing but suspected I was being too cynical

I tire of the lying, I really do.

wanted's picture

You know you can talk diet till we are blue in the face. And we will hear oh yeah i eat great i do EVERYTHING RIGHT. I call bullshit, there are guys that just yes us to death and go home and eat nothing or they eat everything. Shit diet = Shit cycle

Makwa's picture

He's already battling gyno, ED, and fatigue,

Sound's like he is a trainwreck already. Best advice you can give him is stop now and do proper PCT (not the one listed there) and never touch steroids again. If he doesn't listen let him grow a pair of tits and trash his HPTA and do what ever he wants. You can't fix stupid.

The Impastable's picture

PCT is Nolvadex : 20,20,10,10

He's going to be in a world of trouble with that PCT...

Here is the issue I have. I give a shit about this guy, he's a good dude. But he's in week 10 of his cycle and has seen very minor gains. I would know, since I'm running the same cycle and I'm up 25 lbs. He's up about 8-10 pounds. (Maybe less, because he could be lying to me). I honestly dont see a difference in him, at least no difference that he couldnt have achieved naturally.

This is exactly what happens with no muscle base and a diet that can be eclipsed by an eight grade girl on a track team... Estimate half of that being water weight, and he's up 4lbs of mass in 10 weeks... The problem is never the gear isn't enough, it's always that these people don't know what the fuck they're doing to themselves.

obviously his cycle was a waste of time, but now he wants to extend his cycle to 16 weeks, and up his test to 750mg a week. I don't see a point in this. He's already battling gyno, ED, and fatigue, so why stretch this out any longer and do further damage to his body?

Let him do it. Let him run a gram, or two, or three. Let him develop hendrix tittie syndrome, lose any usage of his pecker, and have him feel like shit. Because some people don't get the message and only a boot up the ass works on them. This is his boot, let him take it knee deep.

your 12 weeks as originally planned. Finish you PCT and hit the gym for 4-5 months natty before even deciding to do another cycle. This way he will actually have a little base built up for the test to build on.

The correct thing to do is come off immediately. PCT, and as GH said keep at the gym natty for 2 years or so. But I doubt he'll do just that...

Makwa's picture

It is unfortunate we have to let natural selection take its course sometimes.

The Impastable's picture

You can't save them all Mak...

vhman's picture

he's being an ignorant fuck

So exactly why are you wasting your time with him?

Dickkhead's picture

hit the gym for 4-5 months natty

No bro. More like 2 years steady. Then he can see if he is a candidate for steroids. Steroids are not for "getting in shape."

Gymjunkie01's picture

have your buddy come here make a account and ask for help

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