It seems like no one responded to your question about prop here's my opinion

Prop is the best yest on the market like I said my opinion and here's my reasoning

It hits fast: let's be honest people preach and preach and preach about impatient people using steroids but the fact is if you're using steroids you're probably impatient the vets are a different story no one on this planet can say they can't make gains without drugs if they are actually trying to. Diet is on point training is on point sleep is on point stress is kept to a minimum etc I know 50 year old who are still getting natty results.... its impatience at its finest no matter what someone tells you you want long term results without the long term and it will happen if you're doing everything right and have built a good base

Cycles are shorter: yes you can make gains like a cyp or enanthate cycle in 8 weeks instead of 12 this means less pinning less to keep track of its mentally easier to run a shorter cycle. By the 6th to 7th week I am 100 percent disgusted with pinning myself... in fact I dread pin days after awhile so it started and done faster.

The hormone can be controlled easier: once again I'll probably get called lazy for this but it's true. Keeping track of macros training everyday life and now keeping hormone levels stable it's a mental train wreck. To me cycles are stressful 100 percent. If you're pinning 100 mg of test prop eod or even 50 mg test prop ed your not on a roller coaster. I've used cyp on a 2x week pin schedule Monday Thursday and I woukd start feeling fucked up by Wednesday this is no lie people say I'm bullshitting but it's the truth.

It's cheaper: not much explanding to be done here.

Everyone's body is different I know dudes who can pin once a week and are fine and others who can pin eod and it's not working for them you have to find out what works for you within reason. Obviously you don't want to re invent the wheel here stock to the basic guidelines but tweek it to work better for you.

Now I'll wait for all the bashing I'll get for the things I said because it's "wrong" lol

If you are older, you should see great results on 250mg of Test E per week, if it is good quality and not underdosed. In general, it's easy to recover from test cycles. This shouldn't be an issue. But, for many people, myself included, test has a lot of side effects. There is a reason, after all, so many derivatives were designed. For me, high blood pressure and a bloated face is inevitable, even with an AI unless I really take a high dose, which has its own sets of problems.

An AI can help a lot thee days - no one did high dose test cycles until they were invented - but I will deviate and suggest a low dose. See how you feel, and stack compounds like masteron and/or primobolan your next go around.

I pretty much stick to Primo these days and low dose test.

Note on all the forums, they suggest Deca as a second cycle. So, careful with what you read. Deca Durabolin stays in your system suppressing LH and FSH for up to a year. It has its place, but it's stupid for all these sites to suggest that as a second cycle. So, caveat emptor and all that.

I dont know pinning & pip

I purchased 250 Test E & 200 tabs of DBOL
i would like to start my cycle soon
looks like i will have to get blood work done first
then write out my diet plan
Then Get needles ... OMFG needles :(
then i need PCT SUPPS
then i can start :(
this is scary
28
190 pounds
5 11
lifting for a few years now
Ready to get this going
would like to hit twice a week 500 a week
plus take 20 dbol in morning & @ night for 4 weeks
test for 12 maybe 14 weeks
then dbol for only 4 of those weeks
then start PCT

someone said start pct 2 weeks after ur cycle ends?
why not start immediately
or am i mistaken?