posted Wed, 12/02/2015 - 14:03
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For me it's Dbol.. Anything above 20mg a day and my nipples puff out like mini tents out of my tshirt.. And the acne hits. This is with a mixture of different dosages of adex or aromasin, caber/Ralox.
I can never get along with the stuff unfortunately, about a week in and bang my nipple go no metal.. saying this I'm giving it one final go at the end of my current cycle to help push passed some barriers. Oestrogen has not been a problem in this in fact it's been nailed so I'm going to steadily increase my ai dose and start on 20mg ED and see what happens. Any advise welcomed.
What compound gives you the worst sides?
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moojI have a Love/Hate relationship with Dbol. I love the instant strength & CNS torque I get from it, If I take 20mg's in the morning by the evening due to the Glycogen storage I always have a brilliant workout and plus if it's some of the good stuff that euphoric high. However, after 24 hrs I'm breaking out with acne all over especially my face, almost like big boils on my forehead and cheeks. Also can't stand the crashy/come down feeling in the evening due to the oestrogen build up, the inevitable appetite suppression which normally happens in week 3 is a pain too. For the instant depression I feel like dying feeling Anadrol is a tough one to beat though....
That just sounds like hate to me mate! Are you oestrogen sensitive with test also or just Dbol?
moojJust seems to be dbol, I'd pop the stuff all day if it wasn't for the acne I get on my face.
I love MASTERON for its amazing effects and how it makes my body look but it gives me aggression sometimes to the point of anxiety. I have found it is dose related though,,,smaller dosages are more tolerable for me.
300 SavageWhats your favorite Master P or Master E..which makes you more aggressive and what type of dose..
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300 Savagex2?
I was wondering the answer to that question also
I concur with that as well. I think Masteron makes me way more aggressive.
Funny you both mention that. Currently running only 200mg of masteron E with a heap of test E (ran test at that dose before no problems) and I've noticed when me and the Mrs argue I turn nasty when usually I'm calm and strive to get along. Interesting, may consider dropping it if it carriers on. I was fine with masteron prop though..
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Gotta throw in another vote for Dbol. Shit converts to estrogen immediately and makes my hair fall out worse than anything else.
I think Dbol pulls through to be voted the most side full steroid!
i can't take more than 5 mg of dbol without losing my appeitite
Horrible stuff mate. The stuff takes me right down to oestrogen city!
Same here..
The worst side effects came from dbol. I got horrible headaches from it. This was many, many years ago and I stopped using it after about 3 weeks.
Other than that, most other compounds have been fine. That being said, I have never used large amounts or dosages of any compound. Moderation is key.
Sorry VH, checking through my old posts and didn't realise I missed your input, apologies mate.
I couldn't agree with more, everything in moderation, even moderation! Dbol just doesn't agree with me either so I've given most my stash of them away.
For me it's dbol also. Feel lethargic even at small doses, loss of appetite and really no gains from it. About to try tool and see if it is any better.
Tool, you mean Drol? I dropped Dbol for that very reason, was falling asleep in the work van! Never experienced anything like that..
Definitely Winstrol. at only 20mg a day, it made my joints ache (bad for a powerlifter), bad hair loss (way more than tren or masterone), and oddly, it made my genitals smell like roadkill. No idea why. Whenever I'd whip it out to take a piss, I was punched in the face with a gawd awful smell. Even a shower didn't subside it completely.
X2 on winny, I can't stand the stuff. Made my joints feel that if a 200 year old lady!
most guys wont believe this but deca.. if i even look at deca my dick goes limp.. found that out the hard way ;( some people prefer death over having a limp dick so, yeah pretty serious side-effect
(FYI solved the problem by dropping deca adding some prop.. never had that problem again)
You tried NPP?
For me sdrol is a bitch. It undoubtedly the most liver toxic compund I have ever tried and it gives me those bad mood swings, depresion, lack of appetite, headaches. I was about to run it at 20-30 for 4 weeks, but couldnt last 2. Still have some left and may give it a try again. The gains were awesome, but to me tren definitely beats sdrol on gains/sides ratio.
Seems about 4/5 people have these side effects and 1/5 love the stuff and get dry gains! Tren all the way baby!
Yes I agree. SD is the worst for me. I made 2 weeks at 30mg ED and felt like I was going to die. Got the worst back pumps from it. Couldn't even walk down the road without feeling crippled. Felt like I was permanently getting over the flu. But boy did I pack on dry mass quickly. If I try again I will probably try 10mg post workout for 4 weeks as a kickstarter.
For sure its nandrolone decanate...even with a good test /deca ratio and caber doseage the "deca dick" gremlin still showed up. It definatly helped gain mass but not worth the limp noodle..will stick to what works for me from now on! No more 19 nor for this guy
How long did it take to get the old chap to play again?
Things were better right before i started pct so about 4 weeks....
I'd have to say tren e. I've tried it twice and both times were horrible. 1st time I through it n trash. 2nd time I made it to 7 weeks and had enough. It hit me like a ton of bricks. Sweating, paranoid, and insomnia bad. I have no desire to ever try it again.
Tren a don't mess w me much at all, weird.
To be honest I'm surprised more people haven't mentioned tren A/E with all the horror stories floating about.
I'm running tren E for the first time now after a few ace runs and I have had less sides with E then I have A.. Results are slightly watered down in comparable. I don't suffer the horrendous trenolone sides like some though.
It really goes to show u that everyone reacts different. Its just not worth it to me, to use tren e. My body hates it. Haven't tried hex. I'll use tren a once a year for 6 weeks and I'm good.
I hear most hex is tren e due to how expensive it is.
Until now, I haven't used anything which gave me bad sides. Guess I'm one lucky bastard. But certainly there's a compound out which will fuck me up badly :-)
Anyway, back to you. Have you ever used an alternative? Something similar to Dbol like Tbol or Anadrol? Maybe it might help and you still get all the positive aspects of it. Worth a try, isn't it?
I'm in love with anadrol, stuff works like magic on a bulk or on the end of a cut, no sides either. I haven't gone passed 100 ED as I never felt the need! Going to stock up on the stuff next order!
You certainly have heard about the controversy about dbol vs. Anadrol.
I have the feeling that most people who don't tolerate one of the compounds are fine on the other. Same goes for gains. Some people report awesome gains with one compound where as the other doesn't seem to do much :-)
I'm a a-bomb guy as well ;-)
If you call a bad side effect not being able to eat, I would have to call out dbol. Really haven't had any bad side effects from anything else but I could not eat anything when I took dbol which makes it very hard to bulk. Most of the stuff I have used has been on the low end of the dosing spectrum from what a lot people seem to use so I think that has kept most of the nasty side effects at bay.
Have u ever tried injectable dbol? My experience from oral an injectable dbol r night n day.
Never tried the injectable, might be something to put on the radar for the future. I like the effects of pulsing adrol so much that I don't think I will ever really need to try dbol again though.
Try it sum time.
Man, I tried to pulse some drol on a little bulk cycle not to long ago. At 50mgs by day 10, It killed my appetite. I dropped it for my food. Maybe it was to strong 4 me idk. I think I might try it when I start cutting calories down. Maybe it will treat me better.
Boldenone, rbc through the roof, blood pressure crazy high, nosebleeds, red skin. Did not feel good at all, even fucked with my libido, nothing else ever did that. A shame really, I liked the look, but I'll most likely never touch it again as most other things are almost side free for me.
At the moment I am in love with deca, no bloat, I feel perfect, I don't even need an AI. Sustainability is key and for me test, deca and low dose orals here and there is sustainable.
RustyhookerSounds like dehydrated and didnt donate blood. Do you get bp up at all on other cycles? Wondering your test dose too.
Everyone reacts different, for sure
I had the same issue last winter with eq. High hematocrit even with donating right before starting it and 56 days into it. I was very well hydrated and I had to get phlebotomies to get my rbc under 50. Between the eq and sleep apnea especially being mid bulk, all my efforts to keep the rbc down still did not keep it under control.
Nice post GMore
RustyhookerKinda makes me then wonder if it was just really good eq or everything in cycle and diet added the boost.
Very interesting learning here.
Anytime my weight gets up there the sleep apnea kicks in pretty good which in turn elevates rbc, coupled with eq it made the situation worst. If I ever run eq again it would be on a cut. Felt like I was being suffocated with the combo of weight gain, apnea, and eq.
RustyhookerOuch! Definitely would cut down on growth as well. No deep sleep. Might just be one that your body wont like.
Bold ace was hard on me. The eq effects were awesome but the hard knotty pip was too much.
EQ has always scared me for these very reasons. Blood thicker than motor oil!
Are you mega strict with your diet while you're running deca to stop bloat?
Carbs are what makes Deca be either watery or not........... low carbs hi pro you can cut up nice and dry, but hit carbs high for instance when bulking hard and you will get smooth (subq water).. experimentation with dosage and carb intake is crucial to get the balance right.
Also guys tend to run way too much test when using EQ...... i find a 2.1 ratio works great for me i.e.....
400 test
800 EQ
I really need to find out what the fuss is about next cycle, teamed with the old golden sust you veterans speak so highly of. I haven't cut in 2 years, trying to build more size while keeping my BF under 15% so carb bloat could be an issue but to be honest I'm not one to mind a little bloat as long as it's aiding gains.