Test E/Tren E
I'll start with my states!
Age:25
Height: 6ft
Weight: 87kg
BF%: 12%
Cycle history: 3 cycles 2 of them 8 week Test P at 100mg EOD the recentest one was a rip blend 420mg of Prop/Mast/TrenA per week for 8 weeks with test either side for a week.
All cycles went great, got along with Tren ace fine. Currently planning my next one after 14 weeks and wanted too see what the community thought. Seems like most people are advising low test high tren so I'm going to keep test relatively low.
So far:
1-14 week: Test E - 500 per week
1-10 week:Tren E - 600 per week
6-12 week Winny (oral) 50 ED
1-16 week 2 weeks on/off : Clen (see how I handle it)
1-16 week: Adex .5 EOD
1-12 week: caber .5 E3D
1-12 week: HGC 250 ui x2 per week
PCT:
Clomid: 100/100/50/50
Novlax: 40/40/20/20
I'm going on holiday at start of week 13 for 10 days, I've read that it should be fine for me to inject 500 mg worth of Test the day I leave for the holiday and since Test E has a long half life it should see me out through to the end of the holiday and I'll start PCT after day 14.
12 weeks on Tren pushing it do you think?
1 thing i'm worry about is if my sex drive drops while i'm on holiday as this will piss me and my misses off, does this happen on Test E if you haven't injected for a while or as it's still in my system the little man will continue to work?
Many thanks in advance, appreciate all input!
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scorpion2bravoi want to run a similar cycle, test e or sust 500mg, with tren e 300mg, just not sure what one to run, any suggestions
Sust would be annoying with the ups amd dows of test levels. Unless your pinning it ed or eod. I prefer low test high tren anyways so sust would be pointless. Just my oponion
What are your goals? If you don't mind pinning EOD sust, but otherwise test E
run the caber and adex into pct for a little bit...
also, contrary to what danno posted...i loved winny as a finisher with tren and test.
Bro I love winny also dont get me wrong, I dont pin it, I drink it lol. But after a longish Tren cycle its not going to be too liver friendly.... IME the best liver protection/tonic is fresh Beetroot juice, twice daily, tastes like ass but its the shit lol
I'm stopping the Tren E a few weeks before the Test E and wasn't planning to contiune with it after the Tren E had left my system as it's expensive, do you think it's worth (very) to continue it into PCT? I did do it in my last PCT as my sex drive lowered and it helped.
Looking forward to trying Winny, like you a lot of people love it, I can always drop it if it dries my joints out too much. They're 50mg pills, I was going to take half in the morning and the other in the afternoon.
Thanks for the input mate!
see my post on green lipid mussel. helped my joints out like no other. i was able to run winny at 100mg ed with it. without it i would never be able to go past 50
Drop the Test E to 200-250 mgs pw. Winny at that stage.....your liver isnt going to be happy, swap for Var if possible or drop the oral completely, shouldnt be needed anyway as the Tren should be doing all that and more.
Why are you running both clomid and nolva for pct? Personally I'm not a fan of running Hcg twice pw on cycle......prefer a 10 day blast after last pin and beginning of pct......otherwise there seems to be som de-sensetivty whilst used weekly (or more).
Start the Adex at week 3, probably can hold of on the dostinex until then as well. Long esters take time to build up and aromatise. If it was prop, then yeah start Ai from day/week 1.
^this is the best advice ur going to get +3
Why is that mate? Not that I disagree completely.
I agree with a lot of what you're saying Dan. I might drop the Test E to 400 but I'm worried about the test being under dosed because it's UGL, may drop it once I feel I can. I was quiet interested in trying winny as I haven't tried it before and it has a lot of plus' on a tren cycle. I should mention I take Live52 all year round and I hardly ever put my liver through much stress. Also my bank account won't allow Var other wise I would!
I've always followed the Clomid and Novlax PCT, most high ranking members on the fourms say it's the way forward. Out of interest why do you say different? My research tells me HCG is suppressive and you shouldn't use it in PCT as it can reduce the use of your balls (+ I hate the fact last cycle they shrank down to the size of a small gob stopper!)
Is there any harm starting the adex and caber on first pin as a precaution?
Thanks for the insight mate!
Looks like a pretty solid cycle layout to me. Good luck
Thanks for the input mate! Looking forward to trying the longer esters
Chaz32621I'd get the test e in ur system first before u run the tren or run test prop at the start to get it in ur system fast while the test e kicks in then you could start tren e week one other wise if ur not going to use test prop I'd wait before u run tren week 5. Stay safe and run tren 8 weeks. Remember that shit should not be taken litlely. Since test e stays in system for a long while I think its 16 days u should be okay making the lady happy. I'd run test e at 250 so that tren gets all the receptors
Thanks for taking the time mate. I'll start the test 2 or so weeks before the Tren like you said, not sure why I forgot to do that! Since I'm using UGL gear which may be under dosed by 100mg or so I was going to stick somewhere in the 500/400mg range although if I was using pharma grade test I would stick it at TRT level like you say! When you say do to 8 weeks on Tren Eth do you mean inject for 8 weeks or 6? I did 8 weeks on Tren Ace last cycle and the last few weeks my body was change every couple of days so I was thinking since Tren Eth takes longer to kick in do it for 10?
Well I would say no tren until later down the line but it looks like you've already dipped into the tren before. Just always make sure when you run a 19 nor you always have cycle support, caber, prami, bromo, etccc.
Any chance you could help answer any of my other questions?
Thanks for the input Bigjrock. Yes I went into Tren a little early, I guess I was lucky and it worked out for me. Of course, I ran .5 E3D on my last Tren cycle and that did the trick for me so I'll stick to that dosage on the up coming cycle.