posted Wed, 01/20/2016 - 04:19
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help aromasin dehydrating me and ruining sex drive even at 6.25mg eod on 900mg test
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Im only using 6.25 eod and its killing, have dry skin poor mood, libido and energy. ive tried upping my dose incase its high estro but it made me feel worse. im using 900mg of test and cant imagine such a low dose would kill my estro this much, has anybody else had this trouble?
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900mg of test?? why that much?? are you a pro?? not being sure if your estrogen is high or low is a huge indicator of your experience with cycling. I think you need to seriously do more research. more test doesnt mean more muscle, it more often than not means more sides. start over and learn more.
CoblerVery true, it possibly is too much, Ive already decided that next cycle I will run a much lower dose and have regular bloods to get the AI dose correct. I was stuck with the idea that I needed a much higher test ratio to deca, after some looking around I realise It doesn't need to be so much higher. Right now the test is 300mg higher than the deca, I plan to run 150mg higher on my nest cycle.
you made no mention of Deca in your OP. this will kill your sex drive and estrogen is like rocket fuel for prolactin so even a slighty elevated estrogen level can make your prolactin out of control. test to deca ratio, everyone is different, a good starting point is run the deca at about 1/2 the dose of your test, until you get a feeling for what is good for you. so if youre on 350-450 test, run 200-250 deca
you need to be taking a dopamine agonist like prami, caber, or ralox if not you will get deca dick
"you need to be taking a dopamine agonist like prami, caber, or ralox if not you will get deca dick"
If you keep your estro in check you have a great shot at your prolactin staying in check. You DO NOT need to automatically take a dopamine agonist to prevent deca/tren dick. Many people keep them on hand if needed but never have to run them. You're telling someone that he needs to take a drug that might not be necessary. I started a deca run last week and have caber on hand (don't plan on using it) and I'll be banging like a champ my whole cycle. That's a very broad and misleading statement telling someone (and every other noob reading) that they definitely need to take that. If his prolactin is in check and he's still having trouble with his dick what's caber gonna do for him?
you are correct, i shouldve clarified better. I have done some big write ups on this exact topic and shouldve been more specific and accurate.
it goes back to my original post, this is all about experience. which apparently is lacking here and not knowing his body well enough to know the estrogen/prolactin sides.
I wasn't intentionally coming off like an asshole. I've done the same shit and told someone 10 different solutions to a problem that might not even exist. No worries brother, sorry for sounding like a douche, that's not my style and I didn't mean to put you on the spot. Be safe and stay healthy bro. Didn't even realize Catalyst touched base on this subject not too long ago.
no worries, when i am wrong i am wrong. good call, i know better and i didnt take the time to clarify. its on me. thanks for being straight and honest. its what this place needs.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/everyone-says...
CoblerIve had caber on hand the whole time 1mg tabs, never had gyno issues so never used them, only thing different on this cycle compared to other test/deca cycles is the AI, that why I assumed it was the dose of the AI that wasn't correct.
FR sent bro. I'm curious what test you're running because I'm in total disbelief that your ai protocol could bottom out that estro. Also curious where you got that aromasin from...I know if they sent you something different like letro instead of aromasin you can DEFINITELY kill your estro taking that shit eod. We all need bloods to help you and knowing what lab all this shit came from will definitely help as well (can't post the source in the open forum) but you can throw up a gear pic to give us a hint ;)
There are different types of gyno. Your dose of aro is so low I couldn't see it crashing your estro at all. Especially for the fact you're taking it eod. If you took that dose every day it might not be sufficient for 900mg of test. You really need bloods asap to know what you're putting in your body and what your numbers are. Why play a guessing game? Get bloods and you'll have your answer right there. If not, you're never gonna know what to adjust and you're basically pissing in the wind
Ever think it could be the Deca messing you up your sex drive and not your AI? Is caber in the mix? Better get prolactin checked with that bloodwork also.
count your blessing bro. your one of the lucky ones. running close to a gram of test without need of an ai is an awesome thing. lucky! haha
have you gotten bloodwork done to make sure it is in fact low estrogen? could be more factors at play but if it is in fact estro, id do this..
id recommend getting some proviron STAT. itll help that 900mg be more effective and also proviron is one of the best, if not thee best libido boosters out there. im a horny mf when i use proviron.
CoblerI will get bloods done, hope the test im using isnt underdosed, the lab was a top uk ugl but gone now after some problems. For now i will stick with the aromasin dose. On cycles never using an ai ive never had any sides of low or high estro, im new to using an ai and the whole ai dosing has ruining my cycle, right now my muscles are flat, dry mouth whole body feels dehydrated, im getting tired in the gym after really quick. Anybody think i may be better off with adex?
CoblerThanks the for the advice, I will get blood work done. Have a feeling test is underdosed heavily, which may explain the lack of aromatisation
Right. If you were able to crash running almost a gram of test a week, your body isn't making much aromatase in an attempt to balance estro in line with how much test you have in your body for a reason. Tells me your test is either just oil or severely underdosed. Get those bloods and post them up. We'd love to get a look at them!
Do you take any other meds, or have allergies to anything you are aware of? Also, how is your diet and fat intake. I would like to explore the diet side as well as the drug side. Thanks.
Coblerdiets is always good on cycle, i dont monitor fat intake. I take tramadol and codeine on most days, until I get back injections later this year.
Thank you. Both medications posted are known to cause constipation. Increase your water intake and look into psyllium husk for fiber...glad ur here...
TronYou have to find your "sweet spot" with an AI. There's no set universal dosage for everyone. High estro and low estro sides can be very similar so it's going to be very hard to find out what the issue is without a blood test..basically right now you are experimenting with your dosage. Why don't you post your stats and cycle history so we can help you further.
Very true...
You have to get bloods drawn period. Could be bunk test, could be bunk aromasin. You can throw everything but the kitchen sink at your issue and not find a solution until you get to the source. And to get to the source you have to draw bloods.
^This^
Yep. Bloodwork. Otherwise it is a guessing game and most guesses are likely to be wrong.
X2...spot on, sir... ;)
Your stats so people don't ask:
Age: 29
Height: 5ft 10
Weight: 205lbs
BF: 15%
I'm guessing your exemestane is dosed correctly, but your test is not. Either that, or you don't make much aromatase. Did you start taking the exemestane at the start of your cycle or wait until week 4 or 5?
Cobler30 now 215lbs body fat was at 12-13% last summer unfortunately 15% is where it like to be.
CoblerI started 12.5 eod at week 4, upped to ed as felt shit, ed made it much worse, im now stuck at 6.25 eod feeling better but still not right. On my 5th cycle, I have done 4 test deca cycles and 1 test tren var cycle, currently deca 600 test 900 on week 10. I started using an AI on my last cycle which was test tren var, I also felt terrible on this cycle but put it down to the tren as this was my first time using it, i know suspect it was the ai dosing all along. TBH i felt better without an AI.
I fat thumbed and negd you so I thumbed up to correct.
You may feel good without an AI, but having low or high estro starts messing about with your lipids and your cardiovascular system as well as your sex life. It's better to get blood work than play the guessing game for you.
X2...
Many questions that come to mind. Cycle history? Used the products before? Run a different AI before? How far are you into the cycle? Did you take blood prior to the cycle? Have you taken bloods while feeling that way? Can you exclude any other circumstance outside of the cycle, like stress, little sleep, poor nutrition, etc?
Nice assessment questions... A+