+ 2 My experience with ephedrine
I have been taking ephedrine now for 2 wks and it has been a great experience. I have high BP so I was worried when I started it and I never wanted to take clenched either. But I figured that if I tried ephedrine and it spiked my BP to much I would just stop. I want to remind everyone reading this that I take medicine for my BP and I believe it has helped keep it under control so in no way am I saying if you have high BP just use ephedrine and you will be fine.
I have dropped 8lbs in 2 wks and I believe that I could have dropped more but with my ruptured bicep I have only been able to do a lot of fast hard walking and also my work is strenuous so I believe that the amount of cardiovascular I have done has helped. I don't think without the exercise I would have gotten these results but I do believe that the ephedrine definitely helped.
I have been dosing at 50mgs 3x a day.
The effects definitely make you sweat a lot and it crushed my appetite at first for the first few days it was like all food was disgusting and I usually eat like an animal. I got this ephedrine from the store I believed that ephedrine was banned it's not there is just a restriction on how much you can purchase.
Just wanted to share I know that there is only a little info on ephedrine since everyone likes to take clen.
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Murph, I know about your biceps tear and can't get an idea whether you do or not, but do you actually don't lift in any way currently?
bigmurphI was reading the box it actually says that 6 pills a day is the safe limit I can see that long term use is definitely a bad idea but I'm going to use until I drop the 3-4 more lbs I'm looking to cut
Good reminder. Haven't used ephedrine in years and can't use clen bc cramps are killing me no matter how much potassium and magnesium I take.
bigmurphI never tried clen because of all the bad things I hear
I figured ephedrine would be the better way to go and it worked out. Plus I just went and bought it no having to order
is that legit ephedrine hcl or supplement with ephedra extract or whatever they call it that supposed to be weaker than synthetic ephedrine?
bigmurphNo its pharma grade from the pharmacy
Were you taking an ECA stack or ephedrine by itself? 50mg 3x/day is a crazy high dose. Did you slowly work up to that dose?
bigmurphJust ephedrine and yeah just started there
Didn't have any bad sides besides heavy sweat and my BP has been stable
bigmurphMakwa what do you think a good dose is for me I would appreciate your opinion on this because I was just going off how I felt not off any protocol
ECA stack is much more effective than ephedrine alone. The compounds work synergystically together and you can take the stack for a longer period before your beta receptors become down-regulated. Typical stack is 30/200/80 (ephedrine/caffeine/aspirin) taken 3 times daily. Now those are max doses and you don't start out right from get go with those doses or you will be shooting yourself in the foot. Recommend to take half that 3x/day to start and work your way up over several weeks if needed. Or start with that dose taken first thing in the morning and work up to 3x/day. Don't cut the aspirin dose in half, just use a baby aspirin each time. I would also recommend taking 1 or 2 days off each week to allow your receptors to recover and to help prevent adrenal fatigue. Doing this and ramping up the dose slowly will actually provide greater fat loss long term because you will be able to take it longer before its effects diminish due to the receptor saturation and adrenal fatigue since your body eventually builds up a tolerance to it. The higher the dose you take, the quicker the tolerance builds and renders it ineffective.
It is not a magic pill though so to lose fat you still must be in calorie deficit each day. Remember to consume plenty of water throughout the day since ephedrine and caffeine are strong diuretics and you will dehydrate at a much more rapid rate. Probably also best to stick with LISS cardio because intense cardio could spike your heart rate too much.
Nice info Makwa. +1 my man!
bigmurphThanks for that makwa I jumped into taking ephedrine because I knew it worked but I didn't know how to work it and I have looked around and you see alot of different versions of this email stack and most of them talk about using ephedra and what not so appreciate I'm going to take it down a notch and follow this routine.
Thanks again glad to have you here at eroids brother
+1
If you have been doing 50mg 3/day, you might want to just quit for a week or two to let receptors recover and then start with the ECA stack. You will find the stack to be much more powerful/effective so start low dose and slowly ramp up IF needed. Be sure you are not consuming any other stimulants like PWO powders or anything that has caffeine in it. If you have to have coffee in the morning use that for your morning caffeine dose.
Makwa, I see that you advise no PWO powders. I'm assuming because of the stack dosing is 3x daily. I'm very sensitive to stims and they interfere with my ability to work. So I generally only do 1 full dose 25/200/40 and then maybe half that dose following 3 hours. Would you still recommend to cut the PWO or does it seem ok. I have read that to yohimbre and Eph can be a bad mix because of one a vasodilator the other constricting. Also I have read you don't want toe caffeine tolerance to sky rocket making it ineffective for the eph to work. Would you say a PWO with the dose of 1.5 I have prescribed is okay? Or would you recommend otherwise. I don't mind the stim affect when I'm not at work, so the PWO sits okay. As i have been doing this dose and PWO (pwo contains 200mg caffeine)
bigmurphYeah I used for 2wks so I'm off now my plan was 2 on 2 off but I will follow the protocol you gave me
Thanks brother
Agree with mak bro that's a real high dose. Great that the BP is stable and sides aren't bad but I can't imagine that much stimulant isn't going to effect your heart negatively even over a short time period.
bigmurphTo be honest I had no idea that was a high dose because the first day I took one fine later took 2 and my BP was OK no shakes so I thought 2 tabs at a time would be good. Maybe that's why it took the weight off so fast I will keep it lower from now on.
What do you and makwa recommend 1 x3 or only 1 x2 I would like your guy's opinion
No worries brother im glad you're open to suggestion. To be honest I'm not sure what a good dose would be. I know in medicine it's used to treat hypotension after anesthesia. At least that's the only thing I've seen it used for.
After a quick search I found this link:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/1318281/
Definitely cut your dose in half. Add some caffeine in there. I would suggest half the dose of the study I noted above. As today's recommended caffeine intake (equivalent to coffee anyways) Max's out at around 300mg (or <6 cups of coffee).
So perhaps 25mg ephedrine w 100mg caffeine in a dose. I'll let others chime in those as I don't have any real world experience with it yet.
bigmurphI was actually curious and it's pharma grade so I went and actually read the drug facts and directions on the box it does say the safe dose is up to 6 pills a day I was actually surprised. But I am going to cut down but I'm only using it for another 3-4lbs that I want to cut I'm looking to get to 215 I'm 218 as of this mourn but long term use at this level I definitely agree is not a good idea. Thanks for the link brother +1 appreciate it
I actually new about this because I had asthma when I was young and when I didn't have albuterol I would use this brand of ephedrine for my asthma
Been looking to try what brand did you use and where did you purchase if you don't mind me asking
bigmurphBro your 138 lbs you don't need ephedrine you need to eat a cow
bigmurphI can't say the brand but I purchased it at the store
Not in pm?
Thank you very much for sharing brother!
Are you taking oral ephed or amps?
bigmurphThe oral I will tell you exactly which brand hit me up in pm