+ 2 Sus cycle first week complications....
So, after two injections of sus250 at 1ml I've been feeling flu like. I have a low grade fever and was wondering if anyone has experienced this. Last cycle I experienced test flu and dropped the test e and ended the cycle early. It was my first cycle. I choose sus for my second because I didn't want to inject eod with prop. Not ready for all those injections. Decided mon, wed, fri was the popular choice for sus. I got my bloods precycle and everything was on par, estrodial, test, liver, kidneys...so now this has happened. Everything is sanitary and my prep area is squeaky clean. Plus, this is a different supplier. A much more reputable one. I'm taking armidex .5 eod because of the short ester, last cycle I started at week 4 on a long ester. The armidex is the same from before which worked great. Plus the pip is not pleasant. Should I inject .5ml every other day instead of 1ml or is that not even worth it?...This sucks that it's happening day 4. Any ideas? I've read multiple reviews on here and other sites and the conclusion is all over the board, some say it's rare to have, others say it's common, it's an allergic reaction, it's the BA, needle is unsanitary, supplier sucks, and so on. Was wondering how long I should wait it out and see if it goes away. It's been almost 2 days since the first symptoms. Starting to believe my body just can't handle test. Cycle is sus250 for 12wks, inject mon/wed/fri.
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If you got the flu on your 1st cycle, now you started another one and getting the same problem, maybe not do it at all? Im just saying your body could very well be fighting it every time and it could mean its not for you. You may be on to something about your body not handling it, your immune system might be fighting it. You could get a platelet blood test and see if you have allevated white blood cell count which is the true indicator of it being rejected.
Looks like that might be the road I'll be taking if I can't shake this flu this time around. I got great gains even on 8 weeks of test results and have kept 75% of it. Thought of variable reasons of why this occurs but I think it all stems down to an individuals biological reaction. The body is a freaky yet sophisticated piece of work.
Didn't get flu from it, but the worst case of pip I ever had was from Organon sustanon. Very extreme for me, but sustanon is known for pip. Had knots the size of golfballs and could barely sit down.
Weird how the pharm grade stuff has terrible pip, but the ugl sust, well some would call it pharm grade is totally painless.
I can honestly say i have never had a smooth pharm grade amp bro.... back in the day every shot was like a mule kick, i remember having to drive with half of my ass lifted off the seat the pain was that severe, 21g harpoons didnt help either lol... but it was the gear for sure... pinning modern gear is a walk in the park.. thank fuck lmao!
The pip is too much to bare. Can't hit the ventro in a timely matter so now I'm going for the quad. Question, can I bridge with cyp at week 3? I'm most likely going to switch to a single Ester but my gear won't show up for at least 12 days.
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Thanks bro
Ventro can be difficult. Why dont you try the glute too? Quads going to hurt but if you have to wait 2 wks you're still going to pin 6 times with the protocol you laid out. Might want rotate that.
I don't think sust was the right choice. Trial and error. Got my cyp ordered so now it's a waiting game
Sucked for me as well. Test e never set right with me either. Switched to cyp and no pip at all. It all depends on who's making it and what's in it. Good luck bro.
Did the glute wed and it's been 3 days and wow. Not as bad but still very tender. Did both ventros also and the pip is still there from when I pinned monday, did the other ventro yesterday after brewing up the gear in case in crashed and now that one is sore. Not as bad as Monday's but still aggravating. So I'll pin the quads hoping for a miracle and also hoping the pip in both ass cheeks are gone by mid week next week. Fever lasted only a day so I'm relieved of that.
Yea, I wouldn't have thought it, but hell, 15 yrs ago there wasn't as much info available. I had all of the reference books but I don't recall ever even hearing the word "pip". I got schooled real quick. Like getting bit by a rattlesnake. The stuff was very effective, but I haven't managed to make myself try it again. I hear there are some fairly smooth products out there now though
What gauge and length pins are you using? And where have you been injecting?
In the meantime grab somme benadryl. It may help you get over the hump.
Ventrogluteal. 25g 1 inch, I have low bf%. Got a pounding headache I took some ibuprofen which kicked in right away
I'd hit another site and if you still are getting symptoms you can either lower the dose for now or switch to a totally different carrier oil of Sust. I myself get along great with mct.
It could be a couple things. Pinning correct. Ba in the sus. as far as the pip. The flu I always get for like a week and then I feel great. I think it is the hormones raising and the body getting used to it but I could be wrong.
RustyhookerI think you're correct. Pip and sust is why we push enth or cyp so often unless a blended stack.
X2...i get OP to warm it up and see if it makes a difference....BA or EO...House prolly spot on..
RustyhookerRice bags for therapy work great for warming.
I forget about those...lol
RustyhookerMy last brand of sust was butter. But my first run with sust.....omg bad pip. Lol.
You should be injecting sust EOD. How are your injection sites, any swelling, redness, pain, etc?
Why are you on arimidex so early, and at .5mg EOD? Were you feeing estro sides already?
Is it too soon to heat up the oven and put the vial on a cookie sheet with a needle in the top to vent?
It did come in the mailbox and it was a cold day. I'd say it was in the mailbox 2 hours max in cold weather. I rolled them in my hand and didn't use them until the following day. I took a good look and didn't see any real cloudiness or crystallization. Is it safe to heat it up anyways using a blow dryer to get anything I my be missing
Blow dryer or heating pad to warm up...yes...see if it makes a difference...
You think it's crashed? I've never dealt with crashed gear so this isn't my area of expertise.
Not sure about crashed....might need to be cut with gso or have microbe in it...OP should heat up w/heatin pad first and see if that alleviates symptoms...
House up top gots some.good info too...
Pain and swelling no redness or any infection. So far i have been pinning eod(only two pins so far.) The ai is for the short ester, i could probably get away with starting it 2weeks out but i hate the sensative nips, might as well nip it in the bud.