+ 8 Tren changed my brain chemistry
I tried tren for the first time at the start of my current cycle, ran it for most of the month of June. I stopped due to acne sides getting out of hand.
I did get some of the usual tren sides like vivid dreams, night sweats and some jealousy issues.
The weird part, the last month after stopping Tren I have been extremely attached to my wife. I'm closer and more affectionate than I have been since we were newlyweds. I'm like a kid in love for the first time.
The sex drive is normal, like any other on cycle sex drive, but the emotional attachment is downright odd.
I think it is a side effect from the initial feelings of jealousy, and the thoughts of my wife leaving me. She was not intending to leave or anything, but my brain started dwelling on the possibility. I started having regrets about every inconsiderate thing I've ever done, and felt overly committed to making sure they never happen again. I've been married for almost 21 years, so there having been plenty of times I was an asshole.
I'm really happy with the emotional changes, and feeling deeply in love again is a wonderful thing.
If someone could duplicate this experience in a clinical setting Tren could probably be used for marriage counseling.
- Bookmark
- 8
- 0
acne is another prolactin side effect
prolactin sticks around even after you've stopped using tren. The oxytocin/prolactin is what is causing this side effect.
what was your dose and dosing schedule as well as your testosterone dose?
And did you use anything to control prolactin? if so what and what dose
The TREN didn't alter your brain chemistry, the prolactin and estrogen did. Those are the hormones responsible for your behavior. This hormones can be dealt with using Ancillaries, in other words it's not the tren
J223, you might be right about all these sides being prolactin related. I used the tren A for 3 weeks at 50mg a day, along with 40 mg each of test E and P per day.
I did .25 mg per week of caber, and dosed my adex at .25mg EOD, a dose that works proper on a test only cycle of that size.
I wasn't dead set on running tren, so it was not a big deal to just drop it from the cycle.
After reading up on symptoms of high prolactin I didn't really experience them I had good sex drive normal emotions outside of the marriage. High prolactin is supposed to go hand in hand with low dopamine, did not experience those sides either.
Of course you didn't, because you were taking caber lol. Oh and testosterone could counter some of the low dopamine side effects
This is generally a low dose. Also unless your caber is real pharma grade, a lot of the generics or ones you can find online don't work as good as the real deal, so you could take that into consideration too.
Not everyone who has prolactin issues experiences ALL sides, not everyone gets decreased sex drive from high prolactin. Maybe just one or 2 of the many potential sides. Everyone is different. It's hard to say without really knowing the levels determined by bloodwork
I'll have to try another month of tren and see what happens.
thats funny, the same thing happened to me but I didn't correlate it to the tren cycle. immediately after stopping 8 weeks of tren, I went through about 3 months of super intense closeness and tenderness w my wife, she described it like our honeymoon all over after 9 years of marriage... i'd be interested to know what the connection is... other than that newly discovered side affect, I loved tren can't wait for next cycle. I also had to be a little cautious while on cycle to contain aggression, but it wasn't as bad as I had read and I had feared. no cough.
That's about how long it lasted with me. I'm convinced it's the oxytocin.
There are some studies on animals tha show an increase in oxytocin after giving them tren
That is a PROLACTIN based side effect. Prolactin and oxytocin have a relationship and this is most likely why you seen these side effects, you are not properly controlling your prolactin
I'd love to hear some ideas on the relationship of Tren and oxytocin
On tren I have little patience for people. Ofcourse I remind myself its the tren. I notice myself being overly cautious with my lady on how I act with her. Almost over compensate so as to never let her experience the intensity that's burning inside. So in that respect yes while on tren I am considerably more careful and respectful with her...not that she isn't respected any less any day for almost 12 years now.
I wonder if tren has an effect on oxytocin levels in some people, causing the relationship changes
sure feels that way, it's gotta have an impact on another hormone and that seems like the one.
@CBBurr, it's been over two weeks since this post. Have the "more intense" emotional feelings persisted for you?
yep, still going strong. I no longer take my wife for granted, I scored and awesome girl and got a little lax on treating her as a man should treat an amazing wife.
My marriage is in awesome shape as a result, better communication and I show proper appreciation.
I start, and finish every day with " I love you, you are beautiful" This is pretty important for a wife to hear on a regular basis.
@CBBurrr, that's just bad ass. I've always said, "the key to a happy life is a good woman." I guess the key to a happy life for a woman is "a good man" as well. (Same would go for heterosexual or homosexual people. "A good mate," I guess.) Sounds like you've got a winner, brother. I've never used it, but I've learned that tren can have crazy effects on people. It makes me happy to hear that the intensity you've experienced has been positive, especially for your lady. Again, BAD ASS!!! This makes my morning.
Maybe that's my problem. I divorced a few years ago and have spent the last 2 busting my ass to fix it. Thanks tren....
I'm just getting old and sentimental. Things matter to me a hell of a lot more than they did five years ago
wish you luck!
I fat thumbed you. Appreciate it man. I'm gonna need it. Lol
So lucky her man . Enjoy the new old love . Usually we have to change the wife after 5 years like the Korean cars . And you fell in love again with a woman living with her 22 years . So enjoy it
Yep, still blown away by the effects of a few weeks of tren. It's like I'm in a brand new relationship and have that new love felling, only it's with the woman I've spent 22 years with. This has done wonders for my marriage, It helped me remember just how wonderful my wife is, and has me reminding her of that several times a day.
I'm sending text messages to her a few times a day, like a dang teenager, LOL.
tren , deca same , the things you are explained now happened to me in deca ,, of course no sweat or bad dream , about sleeping i cant sleep from 8 years , but im talkking about negative thoughts , and sometimes really feel depressed leaded me to think about death , but the caber and vitamin E Ddid their job for good ,, i hope next year will try tren , but for me no deca anymore , i dont mind about the sides effect of tren
interesting, what were the sides that made you stop use?
I get really moody and very nagative from tren. I think the worst can't sleep I get insomnia and night sweats. I can walk a flight of stairs with out breathing hard. The good side is very tight great pumps and no water with strength .
TREN=LOVE POTION
for me, it sure was. been off over 4 weeks now and still feel the potion.
I have the exact same experience. Around my girlfriend I am far more affectionate. When we are apart , thoughts of paranoia and nagging thoughts of my girls past seem to haunt me. Strange, strange compound for sure.
WOW! Same thing has been going on with me
Bro I'm going through the same exact thing!
not a bad side effect if you ask me. I think I need to jot down some notes on how I fee right now and keep them in my wallet as a future reminder.
LOL, there are many of us that change that way emotionally bro. I am much more loving to my wife (at least I think I am) on tren. But after awhile, 9-11 weeks that intensity starts to get a little out of whack.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/does-tren-aff...
havea read through this forum, seems tren messes with relationships in a lot of different ways
GearofWarNice link brother. I thought there was a post like that around here. Good one.
GearofWarWell as always allow me to play devils advocate a moment here. I had quite the opposite experience whilst on Tren over a year ago now. See, I was hitting the Tren paranoia button pretty hard and trippin about some nagging bits and bobs of info from out past that had never sat quite right with me. For example, Wifey had some very "odd" messages from an ex co-worker in her FB folder. This same person I had many uneasy gut feelings and suspicions about. Normally in the past I'd have just said "knock it off you're being a paranoid dumbass. Let it go." But not that time my friends. The Tren Ace was telling me that I needed to dig and pick at this scab because something was rotten underneath the surface. And I was too good to be lied to any longer. That I was worth more than I'd been treated. The Tren gave me anger, willpower, and determination to persist and get to the bottom of this shit that I knew in my heart to be enormous troubles, and a deep disrespect for me. So long story shirt is that I demanded to be told the truth because Tren told me that I was worth every bit of said truth. Without the anger, paranoia, and ultimately the confidence it gave me I may never have had been "man enough" to face and demand some of the dark, unpleasant truths that had been lurking just below the surface of my marriage. And yes a full confession was made by her that she had indeed cheated, multiple times, in our marriage bed, while I worked a job I despised to pay for a beach apartment that I never fucking wanted. So moral of the story is that Tren can supercharge any set of emotions-be they positive or negative. That's your call. But Tren is a crazy fucking drug that is not for the faint of heart. Just yet another of the myriad reasons that a motherfucker had better put on his respect cap when dealing with Tren for more reasons other than just the physical sides. Because compared to the intense mental sides Tren can induce the physical sides can seem downright trivial at times. Respect the Tren men. It demands it of you. And please take what I say as a word of caution to the users that haven't touched Tren and think it's a little game. It's not. Be ready to deal with some hairy shit while riding the Tren Train to crazy town sometimes.
mikeyg4321Wow thats fucking crazy man!!! Glad you found out the truth though. Makes me think I may have this issue when I start tren. My girl does some fishy shit sometimes and I'm not the one for prying, digging, or stuff like that. So we will see. (Long story kept because don't want to thread jack)
Goddamn! You are on a roll!
GearofWarSorry, man. Just can't keep my trap shut sometimes. Apologize if I'm tossing out TMI. But if anyone at all can take away anything positive from my shitty experiences then those negatives in my life become a little less negative. Know what I mean? Dudes, I know that I sometimes say stupid, over the top things about looking at women in the gym and whatnot but I never truly mean any disrespect by it. I'm a meathead and I speak before I think at times. I should've probably issued a public apology to Grrl over a comment I made regarding a girl in yoga pants at my gym. But then I thought I'd sound too much like a brown-noser or like Pmob(j/k bro) so I didn't. I Ike it here and you fucks are like family. I'll do whatever I can to help and be productive despite being a bit rough around the edges.
It sounds like Tren will dig out the truth... in your case, a cheating wife.
In my case, a selfish husband.
RustyhookerIt did that to me as well so I went with 6 weeks pct to feel normal again. It did bring us closer together and ultimately, marriage. Definitly a trip after the odd jealous bs during Las weeks of cycle. Very odd chemical. .
P2i2tIt's the basic version of in order to appreciate the good you must experience the bad. In this case the bad was all just hypothetical bullshit in your head, but you still felt the same emotions and we're still in this same mindset as if it was really happening and she was really going to leave you. Which caused your brain chemistry to react to the situation as if it really was happening. Therefore whether it was real or not is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is you know how it would feel, ( the depression, the anxiety and sadness, the anger, etc.), if your wife ever left you, therefore you know you don't want those feelings to return and are now willing to do anything you can to stop that from happening and appreciate more of the fact that she is right there with you and you know how lucky you are to have her. In reality when it comes to experiences and memories and the feeling of good and bad when it comes to a certain situation is based on our past emotions and feelings in a certain situation. So we recall those feelings and relive that situation over again subconsciously in our brains when trying to make a decision that is based on something similar. If that makes any sense. Basically before you actually thought your wife was going to be leaving you you did not fully understand the emotions that would come along with it so you could not empathize with your self when thinking about that situation ever happening. But now when thinking about that situation happening you can empathize with yourself because you've actually experienced those feelings that go along with it. Yes, there is definitely a change in brain chemistry. But that is just a normal everyday thing. Granted that is a drastic one so you realize it more so than if say for instance a show on TV you don't like is about to come on. You change the channel because you know that show does not create good feelings for you. It does not make you happy. It's not something you think about but past experiences with that TV show didnt make you feel good therefore you do not want to experience that TV show so you change the channel. That's a change in brain chemistry whether it is realized or not. I'm glad you went through that and hopefully you don't forget. Because as time goes on those memories of the depression and sadness you felt are going to fade a little bit and not be so strong so it can be easy to forget just how bad you felt when you thought you were losing her. Keep those negative memories alive and vivid so you can more so enjoy those positive moments and feelings you will be experiencing with her from now on. Wonderful post my man +
so in conclusion, its made you a more aware, more compassionate partner? thats great man. i actually feel the same way. i feel more affectionate and compassionate on tren then when im off everything. i find it weird how some people pirate the idea that you will go on a killing spree rampage on tren. not me. im more chilled out and will talk through disagreements with my girl very calmly and come to a resolution. i have a higher tendency to loose my cool when im off cycle or just on higher test.
great post man. so many people regurgitate horror stories about tren and its not the compound, its the person taking it. people shouldnt blame a compound for how they were already fucked up in the head to begin with. and you never get to hear the positive aspects of what tren can bring besides the physique changes. good read, you dont hear enough of this side
But like any AAS there is differences, sometimes extreme differences on how we handle the juice. And even with tren, over time it does get more difficult to stay in control of them emotions.