+ 1 Loss of apetite on Boldenone cypionate?
Quick question, I'm running Boldenone Cypionate (Not to be confused with regular Equipoise which is slower acting) and test-E. I've run test before but never run Boldenone.
My dosage is 300mg/ every 4th day Bold and 150mg every 4th day for the test.
It's only early days as I'm only 20 days (5 shots) in but I can barely eat. I could hardly get my usual breakfast (oatmeal with whey and rasins) down this morning, just the normal amount left me feeling sick and overly full, and it seems to take forever to digest it's still sat like a lump in my stomach 4 hours later. This happens regardless of what I eat (none of which is any different to what I usually eat).
The only thing that has changed in 6 months is the start of this cycle and like I say I've run test many times before without this side effect.
Anyone else had this?
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just starting to have this problem at the end of week 6 (eq,test,mast) have felt great up until 2 days ago. When I eat I feel so full that I'm fighting puking for the next few hours. It actually feels like im more full a few hours after I eat than right after I eat. The thing that is puzzling me is that there is a bad stomach bug going around that my whole family and a few friends have had this week. So I'm not sure if I've got a stomach bug or it's because of the cycle. It sounds a lot like what your experiencing though. How have u been making out in the last couple weeks?
this compound always made me lethargic and killed appetite.....MAJORLY!!
Specifically bold cyp or eq? Cause that's how I'm feeling. Really lethargic and appetites non existent
Thanks for the input, yes I did indeed make a mistake due to me doing my injections every 4th day, so not the usual twice weekly split and I'd added it up wrong. I've now edited it accordingly.
Either way like you say I'd expect it to be too early to feel much unless I'm an unusually high responder and the ester has got it into my system a lot faster. I suppose I do respond strongly to most things. As I also mentioned in my log, I also didn't get any feeling of increased hunger from GHRP-6 last year, so I might not be prone to hunger increases (assuming the bold increase works in a similar way?).
I figured it must be the cycle as there's just nothing else that has changed at all in my life in the last 5 or 6 months, I don't ever suffer from appetite problems and don't really get stressed out about anything, and on the very rare occasion when I do it's only my libido that takes a nose dive not my food consumption.
I have a bunch of this coming that I was planning on using for a kick for my next EQ cycle. This is the first I have heard of it suppressing appetite. Very interested in what would be causing this. Seems to be the polar opposite of what you would expect from boldenone.
Dooooood I had the same thing when I was on bold cyp last cycle. Felt bloated and felt like meals never digested. walked around with breakfast sitting in me until almost mid afternoon. Couldnt put down the normal amount of food. Same thing with the worrying (almost like a panic but not quite)...
Never got over it, just kinda assumed it was a phase. I actually added in some probiotics and papya enzyme and that helped the digestion part but i def never got my normal EQ related hunger while on cyp
Man am I glad to hear I'm not the only one with this going on. Thanks for the input.
i was definitely disappointed that my hunger didnt respond like normal with EQ. got the cardio boost though
Seems like all of us using bold cyp are dealing with this bullshit. This sucks cause I wanted to for the hunger increase and it's doing the exact opposite.
I dont fully know why but i tend to think bold cyp is somehow fucking with blood sugar levels... in turn this is creating a hormone imbalance which is messing with natty production of insulin and the hunger hormone Ghrelin.... if Ghrelin is not being produced because insulin levels are fucked we are never gonna feel hungry............ this is the opposite effect to what obese and morbidly obese people experience! because they eat so much their insulin levels fuck up which is why diabetes is common with overweight folks..... their Ghrelin production is like turbocharged and thats the reason they never feel full.
Like i say i have no proof but am thinking outside the box here.............. i think this theory makes sense! thoughts guys?..... is too much red blood cell production that is creating the natty hormone imbalance !insulin/ghrelin/)........... in some of us i definitely think this is the case.
Good post... got my brain ticking
So when you say insulin levels are fucked are we talking about the body producing to little or to much? Cause I have a glucose meter and I'll do some readings throughout the day. Maybe it's the gh? Idk if op is running it but I'm running some pharm grade now in decent doses and gh is known to cause problems with insulin. So husr tell me what if your theory is correct will my blood sugar be high or low? I'll do some monitoring of it to see where things stand.
RustyhookerWhat I'm not understanding is you know I love my eq and I've run eq ace. Both make my hunger thru the roof. Why would a simple ester suddenly change the compound? Chemically, the parent hormone is not changed.
And with ugl I'd also wonder if it's really boldenone. Tren kills my appetite and low doses of tren would seem similar to good doses of eq in terms of vascular lean growth. Until you try hitting the stairs or hiking.
Chemistry is weird man. The smallest alteration can change the behavior to of tje chemical to the point where it can kill you, or vise versa. Take benzene, it's pretty much deadly, but add a methyl group to it (CH3)and now it's perfectly safe. So just because the parent hormone is the same doesn't mean all esters will behave the same. This goes back to my test is not test post. Frkm my reseach that concept also applies to drugs like boldenone. So that change in ester can change the behavior of the drug.
RustyhookerBut the oddity is were not talking about a change to parent hormone. It's simply an ester change. Test base...ace...prop..cyp..Under and it's still testosterone with different pin times.
Tweaked parent hormone is how equipoise was created from dbol. Posting glucose might be a key to understanding.
Ya but like my article said test is not test. Same parent hormone, differnt levels of nitrogen retention, more or less suppresive, more or less conversation to estrogen etc. the ester influences more then the just pin times and half life. It can either slighty or dramatically change the behavior or effects of the steroid.
I posted this below. IF it's bold cyp, could be the reason. Could be something else mind you.
RustyhookerLogical is some ways. But bold ace is the biggest hunger boom I've experienced. So maybe it's kinda like some guys get anxiety...others don't.
I think that's the issue, done get anxiety, some don't. Seems as though the shorter esters are more likely to cause GABA issues, hence anxiety / appetite issues.
I cant understand why anybody wants to run Bcyp anyway..... rewards are minimal and nothing what expect from a compound.
We went over this brotha, were young and impaitent and don't want to wait 10 weeks for eq to kick, remember we talk about npp? Same shit, but I won't be using npp again deca seems superior for mass building.i have a few more tweaks to make to this cycle before I write off the bold cyp causing poor appetite
I'm happy with plain old boring EQ.
RustyhookerI'm again on the same old boring eq. Love it!
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
i know it was a bummer for me. i really love eq so I wanted see how the cyp was so i didnt have to be on for 18 weeks and i got the cardio and lean mass but hunger was not there. i look back and am disappointed I could have added more weight had it not only increased my hunger but if it didn't blunt my natural appetite... felt like i was on dbol
You got this too?
Anxiety issues as well?
Did you frontload with the bold cyp?
No, just straight in at the dosages mentioned.
RustyhookerHow many weeks into cycle?
Sorry I made a mistake I added it up and I'm on day 18.
My fault as I'm doing my shots every fourth day not 2x a week and I'm onto the 5th shot today.
Rustyhooker5th shot you won't have typical boldenone appetite raise. But if you're anxious, it's either mental or physical. If you're stressing out then foods won't be appetizing at all. If somehow the bold cyp is cleaving and you're truly getting anxiety then stop the bold cyp. 5th shot though sounds more like life stresses but everyone is very different.
End of second week. Odd?
RustyhookerOops...just saw that. Seems odd yes. It should boom bout week 5 but appetite loss is strange. Shouldn't be effecting it at all this early. Tren and var kill my appetite.
Nothing else just test and bold cyp? No orals / kickers etc?
No, just bold cyp and test-e.
I don't use orals or fast acting stuff prop/whatever, not even a pre-workout.
Are you feeling ok other than lack of appetite? Anxiety? Poor sleep? Headaches?
Anything new about the gear in terms of solvents or carrier oils used? Have you used the source before?
Now that you mention it I am definitely feeling overly sensitive as well as a constant feeling like you get right before you have to do something unpleasant such as going to the dentist. No headaches or sleep problems that I can think of though.
If that makes sense.
My sex drive is increasing very slightly, so I don't think there is a problem with the test..
The gear is from a well known source featured on here that I've used on several occasions without a problem, i've been cruising on their test for about 6 months now..
Solvents wise it's 3% B.A and 20% B.B and the carrier is regular sunflower oil. All run though a .22uF filter.
Sounds like you might be having some anxiety issues, which some get with boldenone compounds. Not something I've personally experienced so hope some others will chime in that have been in your position rather than me giving you a textbook type of solution with anti anxiety medications.
Boldenone is the only compound I ever used that really messed me up. I have never used bold cyp but I have used EQ and around the 7th week I started getting very lethargic and having anxiety. I really had no clue what was going on, it really confused me. I thought it had to be the cycle I was on maybe high rbc/bp. gave blood and got blood work everything looked fine. So I tried to power through. About week 10 I was basically in full blown depression mode. Working out sucked, I had the hardest time in the world motivating myself. I tried the herbal route and it did not do shit. I honestly still was not 100% sure it was the cycle I thought I may just be having a mental break down so I figured whatever the cause the cycle is a complete waste so I might as well bail.. extend test e one more week then drop it. About 2 weeks into PCT I started coming back. By the end of PCT I was back but still kind of shaken I guess one could say. I have always been a cocky kind of guy often verging on ass hole so this was new territory for me. So for me I doubt I will ever touch bold ever again. Even if someone proved that what I was actually taking wasn't bold and that is what caused the problems I still will not do it.
I'm dealing with the same exact issues rigjt now. Appetite is shot right now which is exact opposite of what I expected with boldenone. Anxiety is high as hell, but I've alwuas had some issues with that but not something I needed meds for. My doc just put me on some anti anxiety meds and while my appetite isn't great, it's to the point where I can get down my 6 meals a day. For the last two weeks I wasn't eating at all. So things are improving.
Boldenone effects GABA receptors in the brain. I don't know much more about it then this. Maybe you can elaborate on it more? I know GABA is considered a "chiller" so to speak. So eq can basically strip the brain of this chemical leaving some users with a lot of anxiety.
Ignore above, responded to you before I saw this
Gamma Amino Butyric Acid. Not a true amino acid in the sense with usually use that term. My understanding is that it has a huge effect on calming nervous / anxious behaviour. Impaired GABA absorption is a big part of some forms of cerebral palsy Most commonly used drug over here to increase is Pregablin. Not originally designed for such purpose, but an effective drug.
The question I don't have a decent answer to is why so many of you seem to be suffering with bold cyp, (and in a more sever way it seems), when compared to standard EQ where anxiety issues occur but not particularly often? Maybe coincidence, maybe just due to the shorter ester having a more rapid effect, difficult to guess.
Ya that's about all I knew about GABA was it's relaxing effects.
Maybe this goes back to my "test is not test" article. Based off the reseach I did the only common drugs that are excluded from the differnt esters causing differnt effects is tren and mast. So maybe like you said it has something to do with the shorter ester therefore producing different effects. Cause I'm literally never hungry. I'm usually starving when I wake up, and that's gone. Usually I have little issue with 5000 cals ed. My current diet is 3800. And that's a struggle. Last week i decided to just eat wen I'm hungry to maybe give my body a break and I'm hungry like twice a day. But since getting back on my anxiety meds it's gotten a lot better. And thank god for ghrp-6. It really is key for bulking. Without it id be fucked. But finding quality peps is tough.
Digging around and speaking to an Endo friend of mine it seems that the shorter ester explanation is the most likely issue. Seems to effectively inhibit in waves. One can assume that with a considerably shorter ester those waves will be bigger and closer together. Just theory, but a pretty logical one.
RustyhookerAnxiety.....wonder his blood pressure. I get anxious when it's high.
I was wondering the same thing as I stated im dealing with the same issues with bold cyp. Just got my Bp checked today and it was 134/74. So slightly high but I get white coat syndrome, meaning my Bp is always a little higher at the docs.
RustyhookerOther guys on bold cyp had no problems. Possibly as it becomes more popular we'll see folks like you that don't tolerate it well.
Good thing for the eroids forums!
Hell ya man this is what it's all about. I'm almost 5 weeks in now. I was really really excited for the hunger increase but it doesn't seem like it's gonna happen. Will see how the next 12 weeks plays out.
After 5 weeks I would be inclined to bin it if it's causing these problems. Seems like a hinderence to the cycle.
RustyhookerAfter 5 weeks and irongame heading to comp...definitely. switch gear
Checked it and it's in the normal range. 130/85 varying a little during the day.
RustyhookerTrippy. Beast up top has interesting twist backing you up. Very different compared to eq.
Drop the bold...move test up. Run simple test or add oral in second half.