posted Sun, 02/22/2015 - 19:44
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+ 1 Tren or placebo??
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I'm on day 4 of ace/prop/mast cycle and I'm already feeling shortness of breath and crazy strength gains. I don't know if it's the tren already kicking in or if it's just the placebo effect.
I went from 275lbs 6 reps on bench press to 315 4-5 reps in just the 4 days after my first pin. I thought it must be a minimum of at least a week before tren is even noticeable. Is this normal? Has anyone else ever had the same experience?
As of now there hasn't been any visual effects that I have noticed.
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I was shooting ace 100+ mg ed during the first weeks all my lifts went up 50 - 70 lbs it was nuts...it's def the tren kicking in...within the second week you will see...ace whooped my ass with insomnia but then leveled out eventually hang in there...tren is one hell of a ride
Possibly the TREN,,it works pretty quickly.
Could be the tren, certainly conceivable. It's hard to tell. Personally my lifting ability varies greatly anyway depending on sleep / food / mindset etc. What I can press x6 one week sometimes I can press x10 the following week, then only x2 the week after.
I really like this response, steroids or no steroids i find that my strength capacity is never constant and there are really innumerable variables that could be altering the outcome. Could it be the tren? Absolutely i think it could already be factoring in. It could be its having an even imperceptible effect on your adrenergenic system causing enough of an intermittent lapse into a hypertensive state that In turn it could be causing just enough of an in increase in interstitial fluid retention resulting in an all around more healthy muscle contraction. On top of that there could be several other physiological and psychological responses factoring in including a bit of placebo effect. The point is there is nothing simple going on in your body and there no simple answers to describe end result functioning.
I get the shortness of breath, acid reflux and insomnia pretty quick when running tren ace within the first week usually, depends on dosage. Everyone's different and experience things differently. Strength though takes abit to kick in for me though and not that early in the cycle.
P2i2tI would personally say I believe it's a placebo. Especially the strength increase of that much. You must have been able to do that prior to starting this just 4 days ago. Maybe you just haven't tried?although they are all short esters, 4 days is way too quick to start having noticeable effects like this. I've ran tren numerous times, as I am now, and don't start noticing anything usually for about 10-14 days minimum. and I run a top sources gear. but placebo can be a strong agent my friend. Pretty soon you'll start seeing the real sides though.what is your dose and protocol looking like?
315 is usually my 1 rep max, maybe 2 with a spotter. It could most definitely be placebo, but what explains the shortness of breath? Also had my first nose bleed about 2 hours ago.
My dosing is at about 50mg of ace, 50mg of mast and 30mg of test everyday
I like the low daily dosages. Have u updated your stats, since 2012? :-)
Tried tren back in middle 90's...too many sides for me.....shortness of breath, left arm pain, right lower extremity tight IT band, nightmares
that knocked me outta bed.
Check your blood pressure, post it up...
P2i2tShortness of breath could definitely kick in quicker. Maybe within the first week for sure I'd guess. like I said, personally it takes about a week and a half for me. But everyone's body is unique. But the strength takes a bit bro.well, at least in the matter of a 40 lb. Increase for sets. and it's not like you're running high dosage or anything. so that's definitely your own natural strength pushing that weight bro. mind over matter can be a powerful tool! utilize it if you can bro.