Calling ALL Home Construction/ Remodeling Memebers
Okay, so long story short. We just got a new house and in the garage there is a bathroom. Like built up so you're in a nice room to do your business and has a nice big walk in shower. The garage and this bathroom are all concrete floor, however whomever lived here before laid this thin junkie looking carpet on it. So yesterday was the day from hell for my lady and shit was falling apart out there. The washing machine is broke and leaking out the bottom, and the toilet starting leaking too! So now we have this shit carpet on a concrete floor that is soaking wet. Well we live in the sunshine state so I am assuming in no time we will have mold growing on this bitch and that's a bigger problem. So I am comfortable fixing the toilet and the lady is getting a new washer/dryer for Valentine's Day now so she's happy and I don't have to think about a gift anymore (I know ladies, it's not that romantic so I'm going to get her a gift certificate to go get pampered for a day too). Today I started doing the toilet fix and said fuck it I'm ripping this carpet out this bathroom because I don't want to chance the mold even starting. Tomorrow when we get the new washer/dryer I'll rip it out of the garage too. Now to the problem I need ALL THE HELP on.
This fucking adhesive bullshit that kept this carpet glued down is a FUCKING pain to get off guys! I bought a scrapper, bought some adhesive remover and poured it on the concrete and then got on my hands and knees and went to work on this floor. I was DRENCHED in sweat in about 15 minutes, wanting to lay down and die like I just did 100 squats straight of 225.... and the fucking floor STILL LOOKS LIKE SHIT! There is still adhesive on that bitch that won't come up an I have decided to not just nuke the damn place and come here instead an ask for help. So is there any trick or any sure fire way to get this shit off the concrete without having to scrape for hours and hours and it still looking like shit? Anything would be so appreciated because I can not imagine doing the entire garage (which is easily 5 times the size of the bathroom) like I did the bathroom.
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Other than that i had a bunch of shit on garage floor in the house i bought they sell an acid type compound to prep your floor before u paint it i used it works great
Your concrete probly not level u could just use a leveler under what i already mentioned
You can glue a thin plywood subfloor over it then concrete backer and tile on that
ray3801I used to work for a flooring company back in high school and we would get this special pad that goes on a floor buffer that would remove it from the concrete. I usually had to deal with the strip around the wall (the buffer won't get the edges) since I was the kid on the crew with a hand scraper.....I just literally shuddered remembering those days. Good luck with that mess! I wouldn't wish that shit on my worst enemy hahaha
OursIsTheFuryGuys thanks so much for all your help. I'm going to look into the three major options I've seen here that seem the least amount of physical labor, however the most expensive. I've narrowed it down to the concrete surface grinder, the hot water pressure washer, and this magical BEAN-e-doo. It seems each will be about the same price at the end. Thanks again fellas! This is why I love this community.
StevebThis shit is supposed to work well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FviV7XWHj6s
That stuff looks pretty amazing.A bit of money but well worth it.Here's a link http://sealgreen.com/Mastic-and-Adhesive-remover-for-concrete.aspx#reviews
I commented below on the grinder, they're great. If it's a thicker indoor outdoor adhesive, dry ice also works wonders. It'll harden it and break the adhesion making scraping it feasible. It's also great for taking up stuck on vct. I noticed recently a grocery store chain is even carrying it now
I'd try acetone to loosen it up and get a floor scraper so you don't have to be on your knees.Make sure you have plenty of ventilation.
Edit:After some further research,some recommend not using a solvent as it can create more of a mess.A heavy duty floor scraper was recommended.
I'd say try a heat gun and the scraper. The heat gun will soften it enough to get it up
PallMallgo to lowes/home depot/whatever construction store is near you...and ask for help.
a quick google search brought up this product:
http://www.radonseal.com/concrete-cleaner.htm
also try searching youtube for ideas.
Don't ever go to lowes or Home Depot and ask for help. In my area at least, I have yet to meet a competent employee who can advise me correctly in what I need done. I usually quiz them to see if they've gotten any better, but nope.
Find what you need, make sure they have it in stock, and only ask them what aisle it is found it!
You could sand it like Greg and pege suggested but be careful with inhaling the dust. It might be asbestos based depending on how old it is and that would pose some serious risks. Not only to you but that dust would be everywhere.
My suggestion is to rent a hot water pressure washer. Probably in the same ballpark as a sander but since it's concrete under the glue. There is no worry about hurting it unless it was poured and finished shitty. Most hot water pressure washers will remove paint from a vehicle if it is close enough. That way there is no dust flying around.
Good luck
Most of the concrete surface grinders come with a hepa vac and a shroud with gaskets these days. They're pretty dust free. If it's the old black cut back adhesive, there's a good chance it's asbestos. Of course there could be cut back beneath the carpet adhesive and you don't see it
I never did understand the fear of asbestos nowadays. I've worked on contaminated areas and guys run as if they see a bear... The exposure I had was minimal at best, so how much harm could possibly come from that? Not trying to derail the thread btw, just saying, is asbestos really an issue if you're not working with it day to day to day?
Other than duct scraping, an abatement crew isn't going to do anything in residential that we wouldn't ourselves. We really don't see the high levels in much but vct and duct insulation. But I take my health a lot more seriously than I did ten years ago too.
The stuffs pretty evil if it's trapped in your house and disrupted. It stays airborn up to 3 days. Add in a forced air system and it would just constantly circulates. We've all been exposed to more of it than we'd like to think. Any time we changed the brakes on our 1970 whatever we got a nice little mouthful.
I absolutely agree, even though I've removed duct and piping insulation riddled with asbestos before. I'd say it's only an issue if like you said, it's trapped in your house and circulated. I just find it funny that guys I worked with wouldn't touch the insulation around pipes and ducts (and if youre careful it doesn't cause much disturbance), but they'd hammer and smash and create metric fuck tons of dust and debris with asbestos laced cinder blocks... Go figure.
Go to a rental place and rent a concrete grinder , its the only thing going to throughly work not to mention the crete will look fresh , you actually load 4 rubbing stones in the bottom , looks like a buffer , it will cost you around 100 but save you major head achs
you probably had an indoor outdoor carpet that could have been washed easy enough.
3 options:
1) Re-carpet with an indoor carpet, just scrape up what you can, roll 1/2 padding over what's left. and install some cheap indoor carpet. (use concrete tackless around the edges)
2) Rent a floor sander/polisher/grinder. Polish the floor and apply a clear coat sealant or paint.
3) Get Carpet Adhesive Remover like Sentinel 747
What are your plans? Just lay new carpet over it... Also dry ice may help. I've used it to remove sound deadening material in cars.
ive dealt with this several times before, and the trick was always to scrape the large chunks that you can get (hammer + sharpened cold chisel work well) then I would get an orbital sander with a 40 grit or less, and sand the remaining chunks down. This will cause a shit ton of dust, so make sure to seal off the area, and grab a ventilator mask (12 bucks or so). I never worked with carpet adhesive, and mostly with PL glue and tile adhesive, but I'd assume the same applies. You just gotta get your hands dirty and pour some sweat into it man.
If you don't want to scrape it, scrape the biggest chunks off, primes the cement, and then pour a top layer of self leveling concrete and let it dry. It will increase the floor height by a bit, but you won't have to work as much. Be aware that the concrete may not bind properly and you will possibly experience cracking.
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