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Super Steroids synthesized in the 60s

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Found an article about how scientists tested the limits of how strong anabolic steroids can become in the 60s by altering their structure, like tren drol dbol etc but much much stronger. They were insanely potent and insanely toxic so they were deemed to toxic for humans to use and obviously wont be ever be released. A few of them were anavar trenbolone hybrids and others were compounds that I couldnt even explain. So you learn something new everyday.

So here are the ratios.
Remember testosterone is the reference 100:100
These 2-oxa structure is what anavar is basically.

2-oxa-dienolone
6,000:800 

Next compound same as last but methylated.

2-oxa-17a-methyl-dienolone
55,000:2,200-4,700

This next one is an anavar trenbolone hybrid, probably expensive as hell to synthesize

2-oxa-trenbolone
9,300:1,000-2,000

This one is an anavar methyltren hybrid
 
2-oxa-metribolone
50,000:20,000-30,000 

These next ones I dont even know what they are and they have like 5 names for one compound.

BA-36644
Or

17b-hydroxy-4-nor-7b-homo-7α,17α-dimethylestra-3,6-dione

Or

Simplest name. This looks altered version of cheque drops

10(5→4)abeo-6-oxo-mibolerone
37,500-70,000:500-1,000

Links

http://www.totalflexblog.com/articles/supersteroids-1-2-oxa-dienes-trienes/

http://www.totalflexblog.com/articles/supersteroids-2-ba-36644/

Catalyst's picture

This is what chemists do. They make stuff that has no possibility of ever being useful..

Pankration once called me a chemist. Never been so offended in my life.....

strongman6969's picture

I think they finally reliazed the limits, when the top anabolic ones were either bitch tits in a bottle or razors for the liver.

NoWeakAces's picture

Llewellyn writes about these is his manuals. Methyl Tren and M1T are supposedly 2 of the strongest ever created. I think I'll just stick to creatine. That's the strongest they make now days, right?

bigJOHNstud's picture

I'm hoping they come out with a creatine/vitamin/prayer compound

It can be called crea-hogan-dralone

norcuron's picture

M1T is toxic as hell man. But Damn it was good if you could stand how shitty you felt. I still got some from back in that day and Im sure its broken down and worthless now. I just couldn't take the crap. Gives me shutters just to think about it.

strongman6969's picture

All those prohormones and designer steroids were invented way back in the 60s 70s. They failed in human trials either because they were to toxic, bad sides, or they were just better drugs available. They were brought back to the market because of that loophole law for prohormones and most gym rats didnt have access to real roids so they used that alternative.

norcuron's picture

Indeed. Its why I wont take methylated orals anymore.
But its what we had at the time. I don't know if Eroids even existed back then.

vhman's picture

Slow your roll chief! We don't give creatine advice until we have some solid stats and goals listed junior!

strongman6969's picture

I dont think these compounds werent mentioned in his books, some of these were in vidas androgens. But mtren and m1t were in that williams book. These ratios really arent that accurate in the human body, they tested on rats because of the toxicity and levator ani is what they used to test the anabolic ratio. But some of these trial and error eventually led to creating the mainstream steroids.

NoWeakAces's picture

There's 9 or 10 editions of Anabolics. He updates all the time with most of the same info and a few new, different things. You may be right, I might not have seen this there, but I can't think of anywhere else I'd have seen it. I don't get in to the chemistry of it too much.

strongman6969's picture

Yeah I dont what these scientists were thinking just constantly stacking methyl on methyl. It gets to a point where it defeats the purpose. Test and tren is good enough for any bodybuilder. Even test alone is great.