+ 27 bunk / severly under dosed test from ARL
here it is guys. been cruising on ARL's prop since mid september @ 50mg EOD which is 175mg a week. so lets just say 200mg. my body responds to 50mg EOD of test very well, getting numbers back like 864, 927..... but then i switched to ARL prop.
within a few weeks i fell into a funk. but i was going through personal problems at that time, unrelated to any of this. so i thought i was just feeling a bit down cause of what was going on in my life at that point. but now its months later, those problems are gone, and i am still in that funk. so i got bloods, and my results are in today. pic above check it out. 380 test is not normal for 200mg a week, especially with past experiences with different labs. i want my money back and i want ARL taken off this website unless they provide a damn good explanation.
and please excuse my red tag. i got thumbs down for using steroids at 21 years old. yes thats bad, but it doesnt change the fact of the matter at hand
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your always going to come in on the low side with test prop bec of half life. so the 175 a week is really not a sustained 175 per week bec of half life. My numbers always come in low when running prop. that is a very low dose IMO and if those numbers are off, i dont think they are off to the tune you are suggesting , there could also be other circumstance bringing it down a bit. big question most people dont grasp , what is your free test level? your free test can be high and total serum in low normal range
MilKmAnobviously i'm no doctor, but at age 21, maybe something started responding/reacting differently in your body after your cycle(s).
Actually had a friend that was on trt using pharma grade and supplementing with ugl too, and blood work results came back very low. Posted about it here a while back
I also sub ugl for pharma for TRT. I compare my TRT pharma cyp to UGL cyp.at similar dosages. apples to apples. For me , its the only way to compare. In general we all know what numbers to expect from specific dosages. Dramatic differences are a sign of something wrong. Blood work is imperative for everyone who plays this game and cares about their health in general..
What I was saying was that he was using both simultaneously and still had low test results. The point I was trying to make was that there could be other factors causing the low test result other than a underdosed or bunk batch from a ugl lab.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/over-40-trt/low-test-levels-with-inj...
golanithere can be other factors that contribute to low test, i agree with everyone who says that... but nothing as dramatic as my numbers
the cock riders below is the exact reason i dont post bloods here anymore. +1 bro
Rustyhooker18 thumbs up with no negs. He proved he purchased. Source I'd called up to fix or dive. Hassles...some. Keeps sources upright. Don't lose faith. The thumbs and support is alive
golanii just dont get why i keep getting negative reps??? i had 17 yesterday
RustyhookerSomeone on your forum in general is pussy negging you. They'll get banned. I sent pm uphill to check what happened.
Dont be discouraged .. Bloods help the community... Thats what this is all about...POST everything good and bad. Be honest and be respected.. Dont let them beat you
Nailed it.
Thanks Arl this is what i think!
OK Time to set things up straight. we got the email from golani on the 16th ,asking about products that were purchased in May last year... we responded immediately. First things like we have explained to golani there is no way we would fake the testosterone propionate and make it bunk , given it's the cheapest raw one could buy. Does it really makes any sense to fuck up our reputation to save a few dollars? So that rationale alone leaves you wonder why a source would risk doing this ... out of all products the propionate?
What we want people to realise here that these products were purchased in MAY last year so the batch was of May... I know people here have a mind to make up decisions themselves... so I ask you
to look in the ARL thread of eroids and go back to may last year and see if there were any complains from any of that time till today? Do we have to list all the positive comments that were made from May till today? So we have a situation here where 1 person is saying our test is bunk and have tons of satisfied clients who have posted reviews and comments in our Review and SI Pages! Are all the other people lying or crazy?
Finally blood tests, are not indicative of the quantity of test in a vial. Some people are not aware that certain factors may lower the concentration of testosterone blood levels. These include higher levels of cortisol during periods of stress as well as higher levels of estrogen. Also when one has been using testosterone over a long period of time, the SHBG will rise and this will inhibit further build up of testosterone levels in the blood.
It is also important to note that Properly testing of a vial needs to be done using specific chemical lab test.
Finally we are not in any way saying golani has done this on purpose like explained in the last paragraph numerous factors come in place, so we will still end this in a nice way we still have offered golani free propionate and send us his feedback once again.
This is a garbage response to bloods
I don't understand the SHBG bit.. does anyone have info on that?
JuicedAggressionFR sent. Hit me up.
Informative read! Thanks!
AnonWow o wow
RustyhookerBad batches do happen. Don't know why folks are tripping out. It's ugl...not pharma. I've run all very successfully. This guy just got a bad batch. This is why the VETS push for constantly posting tests.
I have been thinking about this today & talked to who ever I else I got on ARL's juice. . . OP, you trying to squeeze some free sauce or what? . . Why under dose prop out of all things. Prop is as cheap as the vial it's in.
golaniyeah im trying to squeeze free sauce worth 140 bucks. you got it man hit the nail on the head!
AnonLike rusty said could have been a weak batch or miscalculation arl has had some good gear
Arl needs to come in hear and address the issue
Hopefully he will at least address it with the user
golanihe is. we're talking via email
AnonGood deal
Maybe there was a fuck up on ARL's end , when making the custom 100ml stealth jug ... Mistakes happen right? We get it, you support ARL and vouch for their gear ... But the dick riding gets tiresome after awhile ... Apparently Op and source are taking care of it privately right now ... Why not wait and see the outcome?
Blood work I had done a few months back using ARLTest E at trt dose of 125mg a week test level was 1100. Test prop I got from him back in Oct was good to go. My gal done a cycle of it and with in a week her clit was swollen to 3 times it's normal size!
Ahhhh!!!!! Bet that turned you on bigtime... I'll take my clits non-enhanced please... Ohhhh the visual...
Wouldn't it be nice if our dicks responded the same way? Run a little prop and surpass john Holmes ! Can run grams of test and your dick stays relatively the same size , maybe a slight uptick but nothing compared clit gains !! Lol
That would be the shit!!
golanithats disgusting
I feel the same way about corn, but a lot of folks like it.
It's a beautiful thing actually.
Agreed sir
I been on ARL Test E 250. I think it's one of the best I've been on. I did labs on Thursday. waiting to get results from my Dr. Will post soon.
Definitely get those posted bro
Can't wait to see them
rocketballzI think that the gear is under dosed. Looking at your LH as FSH levels it looks like there is hormone in the substance you had because you're shut down. Personally, any AAS website with the name Russia in it isn't getting my money. Interesting that the source hasnt chimed in here. Good luck bro.
golaniwe are talking via email I will provide details once it's resolved.
I still don't know what to say to this. I have about 1k of their gear on hand & have not seen issues. Even the ARL signature floaters seem to have been fixed. His shit's been better to me than shit 2x the price - so far. . . . IMO this is just either BS(which I don't see why or how, it's prop for fucks sakes). Or, they just watered a portion of a batch.
You're beginning to look a little like a nut gargler fella, better slow down. I run ARL's gear and love the stuff so I'm on your side but it doesn't mean you can mug this lad off
golanilol british slang is hilarious please enlighten me by explaining what "mug this lad off" means haha i could only imagine
thetdog623837oh aye he is taking the pure piss oot ya ..... theres some scottish slang for ya lol
Saying you're both a liar and a fraud basically.
golanithats what im saying. i've ordered from them before and was satisfied with labs to prove it. it's okay though, probably just a bad batch.. no biggie i'll live lol
OursIsTheFuryMan I'm right there with you... My last cycle for the EBC was all ARL, it was fire in my opinion
Hi Golani
Which batch was this Testo P from Arl?
golaniordered it May 2014
U get what you pay for. Stop buying cheap gear lol i always thought ARL was garbage
+1
Fitnessjunky1987+1 I'm not even gone to talk about the BS I just went threw with ARL just no there low prices is no worth it