+ 1 Letrozole during blasts for those with high levels of aromatization
Looking for info/individual experiences on those of us who are cursed with high levels of aromatization. I won't even look at RC companies anymore as an AI source because it seems like 9/10 of them are underdosed, and even if they're not I've still got to take an ungodly amount of it even cruising on 250mg/wk Test Cyp. We're talking 50-75mg Exemestane a day! This has been the case both with Indian pharmacy exemestane which as I understand should be at least 90% as effective as name brand pharma, as well as the case with exemestane raws that I had tested at 80%+ purity. I went the raw route simply for the fact that it was not cost effective at all for me to continue with RCs or even generic pharma.
My question is posed to anyone in a similar situation as far as aromatization, or anyone who might have some kind of info to contribute. Letrozole is pretty powerful stuff, eliminating up to 98% of the estrogen in the body, but in my case would it be plausible to run letro say during a blast (I'm fine with eating my exemestane raws like candy during a cruise). At this point I don't feel like I have many other options (other than drop AAS, ha! like that will happen). My plan is to run letro at say 1mg EOD at first and see how my body responds and dial it back if necessary, or dial it up if it comes to that.
Any and all info is appreciated.
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i was in the same boat as you last cycle. large doses of aromatizing gear, exemestane just didnt cut it. i started with some letro at 1.25 eod for a week, it seemed like just a little too much so i backed to every 3rd day and had great results with my cycle that way. i did still have some sides from the letro, sex drive was nil during that peroid.
I wonder if you had lowered it even more would you have had better sex drive? Or do you feel like the 1.25 E3D was the sweet spot for keeping away the estro sides?
they were pharma tabs and very tiny, i would have lowered it more if i could have, but i didnt want to go any lower than e3d and the tabs were too tiny to quarter. FR sent.
drolskieletro can kill 98% of estro long term, meaning after at least a month, it takes up to 60 days for letro to reach peak plasma levels, all i can say is try it for your self, in my opinion, if you have as much trouble as your stating, 1mg eod is actually quite moderate, when i blast, say a few grams a week plus orals, i use 2.5 mgs of letro a day, ive gone up to 5mgs a day before, keep an eye on your blood pressure and double your water in take, it can and will dehydrate you, and give you headaches, as for libido and dry joint issues, i personally havent experienced these sides my self, also the key to using good letro is blood work, i wouldnt use it for an entire cycle no way! ill use it for 4-6 weeks max when needed, when i get bloods ill check my numbers and adjust accordingly, so if im good, ill drop it back to e3d etc. give it a shot, test it out and see how you go.
Thanks drol, that's the kind of info I was looking for! It may take some trial and error but I feel like that is the direction I need to be going in the near future. Thanks for the info and +1 to you my friend.
Start off really low when using letro and adjust as needed. All I needed was .62mg (1/4 of a pill) every three days to help me out. No need to dive right into a 2.5mg dose unless you are trying to fix a major gyno issue.
I have had great results with using letro as needed. I take 2.5 mg every three days and it is like a miracle for me. That is on cycle...if I'm cruising at TRT doses I use less. Aromasin never worked for me, and adex actually crashed my estro worse than letro. I would give it a shot and get bloods. See how you feel
Very interesting. I actually experienced something similar with adex. It would seem to me that if you find the proper dosing of an AI that it wouldn't make much difference what compound you were using, whether that be aromasin, adex, or letro. I am kinda under the impression that letro gets a lot of hate unjustly, probably from the guys running mega doses of it trying to reverse gyno. Glad to hear that letro worked well for you as an AI.
Letro gets an unfair reputation. Letro can't breathe!!!
RageMonkeyLetro is going to cause an estro rebound after your blast and tends to dry me out to the point of cramping. Also it destroys my libido
Aromasin is much better imho
And that stuff on letro killing 98% of estro is based on a study done on women
Aromasin 25mg
Arimidex 1mg
Letrozole 2.5mg
All shown to reduce approx % 60 of estro
Perhaps your body has an androgen to estrogen imbalance. Mega doses of an AI will help this but not solve it
Try introducing and small dose of Proviron or masteron in to your stack instead
Both highly androgenic and mildly anti estrogenic
And despite what many will say, running a SERM at a low dose on cycle is common amongst old school guys
Good call on the women's study. But, that has to translate at least in some degree to men as well.
At the moment I'm actually on 250 Test Cyp and 400 Mast E per week and still find myself hitting up to 75mg/day or more of exemestane which just makes me feel kinda uncomfortable. Not physically or mentally, just uneasy that I'm having to pump that much of an AI into my system when others get away with far less.
I've tried various combos such as 20 to 40mg/day India pharma Nolva along with RC exemestane with mixed results. As far as rebound goes, that's ok because I do have a large stock of exemestane raws to handle that. Wouldn't mind to give Proviron a shot though just to see. Appreciate the insight.
The study done on men showed a max 80% reduction in serum E2 levels
I think it was on hypogonadal men, I can't recall if they were trt