+ 47 EROIDS TABOO TOPICS
The latest wave seems to be INSULIN (AGAIN!)
Those that have been here awhile know that there are certain subjects we just don't broach around here and others we really try to sway others from.
Eroids is (probably the ONLY) SAFETY FIRST AAS site on the planet. We are NOT a BB site! And although we have many BB's on this site they need to respect the fact that this is NOT a BB site and we do not approve of putting dangerous information in the hands "children". Whether its chronological, mental, emotional, psychological or just plain physical this site is chock full of immaturity.
Some want to wave the "they are going to do it anyway" flag and of course as we've seen time and time again this is true. That does not mean we encourage them and help them make some really bad decisions and with what we deal with on this site sometimes there are no "do-overs". These are dangerous compounds we are dealing with. And I am not just talking about the TABOO subjects. Even the cavalier attitude towards TEST is dangerous.
Myself, as well as many others on this site have crashed their AXIS at a young age due to ignorance. We DID NOT have the collective knowledge and experience behind us as we do now yet soooo many fkn dumb asses continue to disregard what is laid out before them then come running back to us in desperation like they don't understand what happened.
INSULIN AND DNP - THESE ARE DANGEROUS LIFE THREATENING COMPOUNDS! NO DISCUSSION IN THE OPEN FORUM AND NO REVIEWS.
RAWS - A BIG NO NO AROUND HERE DUE TO LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS FOR THE SITE. NO DISCUSSION. PERIOD.
SALE of WEAPONS, RECREATIONAL DRUGS, FAKE ID's, SELF PROMOTION. INSTANT BAN
...and those that try to pass off bullshit as experience we are pretty quick on the uptake with that shit!
Use your discretion when discussing advanced compounds (e.g., Clen, Tren, T3, T4, SDROL etc) Mods can, and will, delete comments, remove karma, or ultimately Ban individuals who do not follow common sense or heed warnings
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Yea personally I don't care for it. Always leaves a nice welt with some PIP to remind me, you stink like burning vinyl and the extra push I found negligible. Now a half dose of Anadrol pre workout I liked way better.
RustyhookerI stocked up a few tne to multi pin it for next cycle. I don't see tne as a good pwo. Uptake though...
I gave away 2 bottles of suspension; that shit hurt from the moment I injected it and for 4 hours afterwards. The beautiful bright red swollen delt reminded me why I gave it away and the small increase in strength and aggression was not worth it.
I believe it. I think if one wants something for a pre-workout orals seem to be the better way.
StevebNo I didn't use it improperly. 45 minutes before the gym and it kicked in right when I got there. If it was the only test I was taking I would pin it twice a day but it wasn't. It was just used as a pre workout for when I did heavy lifts.
Ace VenturaOf course "heavy" is relative here.
AnonThank you for this Nitti. I know I'll get told to shut the fuck up or insulted for showing my face and speaking in a public forum but fuck it yall can ban me after I'm done.
EROIDS has become a training wheel forum lately. You learn how to ride here and then you're told to shut up anytime real AAS cycle talk is done publicly. Most of the real advanced members leave this place soon after. It's a little embarrassing. Everyone is so puckered up the moment certain compiunds are discussed. Even when done in an intelligent thought provoking manner. Real questions deserve real answers and if Eroid's is no longer willing to support the entire purpose of having an open steroid topic forum for discussion then shut the forums down. Or rename it to the training wheel forum only section. To have it any other way means the stupid kids have single handedly beat the brain trust of Eroids members. These kids are forcing our hand. They've dictated how we discuss topics and protocols and therapies. Yes some topics need to be discussed in a closed private environment. I totally support that in regards to Slin DNP EPO mega Stacks Diuretics and similar topics. But TNE? What's bext Dbol and Anadrol? Deca? Please don't turn Eroids into the Kindegarden of AAS forums.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkRustyhookerWhy do you assume a ban for an opinion? There's been plenty debate on this site.
I'm all for re-editing the red section:
INSULIN AND DNP - THESE ARE DANGEROUS LIFE THREATENING COMPOUNDS!
RAWS - A BIG NO NO AROUND HERE DUE TO LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS FOR THE SITE
WEAPONS, RECREATIONAL DRUGS, FAKE ID's.
i agree, this site has become way too pg-13. nobody wants to discuss anything besides how to run your first cycle of test e and how to do a proper pct.
Isn't this why pank started the non traditional group regarding cycles?? etc??
http://www.eroids.com/og/all-aas-users-welcome
Yes, but is it really something that should be whispered about? I mean we always preach that this isn't a bodybuilding site right? You're a powerlifter. There is a rugby player, a handful of competitive fighters, a tennis player whatever ,...is it really dangerous to discuss the 3 week cut run prior to making weight? It's very obvious that It will do nothing to benefit the person looking to gain weight or build their body. But it will definitely help others in training. It's just one of thoae things where the lines get drawn and everything is blurry because nobody is on the same page. We (mods) stick to a certain guideline when it comes to this with the occasional exception. But it feels dirty
I've been a regular Jane here, a mod, and now a source.. things have changed a LOT over the course of two years.. I d prefer to discuss things out in the open with the exception of a few things that are more appropriate for groups... I don't hoard information, I never have and don't plan on starting anytime soon. When I first got involved in cycling getting information about women's cycles was like trying to cross from east Germany to west Germany at the height of communism ... the ONLY thing that anyone would consider talking about was anavar.. pretty pathetic if you ask me that the world was (and still is) pretending that women don't run some pretty monster ass cycles... If I had to hazard a guess things get whispered about here because it's been said loud and clear we dont discuss these things.. what ever these things are. if it quacks like a duck, it walks like a duck, and it looks like a duck, then maybe it is a duck. All that to say what is the forum for if not for disseminating knowledge and learning (especially from other people's experiences)
10-4 doggy its definitely nothing to with it no matter how advanced you might be! One wrong protocol and your done. end of story
Understood thanx
Personally I believe in education before silence. But that doesn't mean I can't understand where you're coming from. I'll definitely respect your rules.
RustyhookerThere's intermediate and advanced groups on site for further learning potential. The general member simply wants the 1 5lbs and look great on the beach. That can be achieved with simple cycles safely and works great when gym and diet are on point. Risk to benefit needs to be in play.
I certainly agree with that, and it would be my first advice to any youngster and newcomer to the sport to do just that. But this being said, I also understand curiosity and eagerness to know and to learn. Then again, it shouldn't represent a problem as there's always somewhere that you can find the info that you seek.
There's no need for all information to be available at one place/forum, variety is good, and I like that Eroids take a stand point and stick with it. I see it as part of Eroids' 'personality' so to speak, and the rules about certain things are not to be be discussed will help prevent an individual here and there from doing something that is harmful to them. So while I personally would do as you suggest in your post, but if a person after this did still want to know about something they shouldn't be actively messing with, then I would - if the choice was mine alone to make - provide that information or refer to where it could be acquired.
To sum up: I would do this differently than Eroids, but I think it's good that there are someone who does it the way they do. Diversity is important because people is a species of diversity and individuals in between react different to different ways of doing things.
RustyhookerWell said! The members can and will do whatever they want. As it is, just cruise the si pages and watch the info those folks drop. It's crap that I'd never try or advise. Mismatched compounds or hard cycles for a beginner. Folks eating thyroid like it's pez. And they aren't adventuring into forums to read or learn. Every question possible is posted in forums....If you search. Slin, tne, thyroid...it's all covered by folks who asked and learned. We've got advanced groups that Noone even posts in. Sure, there's a sence of not sharing that your cycle is HUGE. But, at least you can see the small tweaks to make so your ride is smoother. Or, you can see who has that level of skill for help when you have questions.
Basically, you can lead a horse to water....
The probelm with this is everyone doesn't get accepted in these groups or or haven't in the past. But even bigger issue for me is there is no cookie cutter protocol for a proper cycle. You have to remember the kinds of people potentially using the site. Majority are average guys who never spent the time in the gym prior to juicing. They didn't put in the work. But we don't shun them. Because they look good now. I understand what you're trying to do and your intentions are good. But I think you should lighten up on the slack in the line. Just my opinion of course.
RustyhookerBut isn't the sites basis on safety first? There's the intermediate, advanced and new Taboo groups opened up just waiting to teach the folks. Both the advanced and Taboo groups openly chat about tne, dnp, slin etc.
The si pages just yesterday a member posted his 1500mg pin. Yes, all in one sitting. Then on to slin protocol.
I'm completely open to anything the mods allow. Truth is just like when I began here that those that don't listen simply return with gyno or infections. Maybe the mantra " this is not a bodybuilding site" needs an upgrade? But then I still question the groups we have not being used. Even the power lifting forums.
As great as the groups are most people are not going to utilize them. #1 you have to make an effort to search them out. Most people click forums or SI followed by pics. Maybe having a group button listed along with the forums would help?
RustyhookerYes. Or possibly in the forums section a GROUPS page that redirects? Same as the main page where there's the groups button.
Probably not going to happen but I could envision right below steroid cycles, Advanced Steroid cycles and below that Taboo steroid cycles. Make them by permission oly of course.
RustyhookerMaybe it will catch eyes better. Open up members sharing.
Sry rusty just didnt want to see the guy pin tne bilaterally, had no intention to go into any detail out the tne itself..my bad bro
RustyhookerNot a worry sir. The advanced group has much info there. It get sketchy enough on si pages. Tne and pericardial water load can be life threatening. True, there's many techniques that would be fun to discuss just for safety sake. But this site bases it on just that....safety. The various groups are great spots to learn.
Enjoy your weekend!
Sent a request for the advance group Bro awaiting approval. ...
Sorry for posting
RustyhookerMuch appreciated!!
Care to explain pericardial water load? Im unsure of what that is..
RustyhookerAround everyone's heart is a sack. It can load or unload fluid similar to many parts of our body. Some medical conditions put too much water into that sack causing the heart to be constricted and forced to work harder. Some chems give such rapid rise to retention that it can be quite a hazard.
Ok..i ran tne pwo for quite awhile and was completely unaware of that hazard of running tne...could be a reason why my blood pressure has been insane the last few months..been averaging 170/90, but has went as high as 185/90...doc told me im within stroke range when im working out, so i havent used tne since. And i planned on running dbol two weeks on two weeks off on my upcoming bulk but may have to scratch that due to the bp.. issues that dbol carries.thanks for the link bro
RustyhookerHere's a basic link. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pericardial_effusion
Rusty, is TNE known to cause this more than other AAS? I read the wiki, sounds like long term caber use can cause it also.
RustyhookerOne reason the safety is pushed. As far as caber, I'd need to dig deeper. The clinical use/dose for caber makes our use look puny. But, since every body handles chems differently...knowing sides is always good research.
The one thing about chems is folks give general doses of their use for cycle. But what they don't mention can be iffy.
I understand exactly what you mean,safety is definently the #1 priority when it comes to the use of aas...have a great weekend urself brother.
I can understand not supporting things that some noob might kill himself with due to lack of research and recklessness.
Good post but I kinda have mixed feelings about it. Those Compounds may have been abused by users but it doesn't mean that they are evil in themselves. Just like a gun doesn't just jump up off a table and start shooting people, these compound don't hurt or kill people by themselves. Infact those same compounds, insulin, t3, ect, are also used to save lives. My wife was diagnosed with a thyroid disorder and was prescribed t3 and it has improved her life for the good. A diabetic would die WITHOUT insulin because his life depends on it. So those same compounds that many abuse are also vital to the survival of others. What's more dangerous than any of those is ignorance, But I do want to say this, I RESPECT THIS SITE, and if the mods and bfg doesn't want me too speak of these things then I want and out of respect I will keep my mouth shut!
I do not think the original poster was ignoring the fact that some of those compounds are used in medical situations. He made it clear that he was referring to those members who seek out harsh compounds without having the necessary experience or knowledge to use them safely or effectively. Doctors who prescribe to their patients obviously do not fit that criteria.
I can honestly say that I've never seen a highlighted/popular topic on a steroid forum call Tren an "advanced compound" that is exclusively for the experienced. It is comforting to see that this site takes a conservative approach to this hobby (I use that term loosely).
One of the biggest issues we have here regarding this topic is that information being floated around gets picked up by people that shouldn't be handling it for whatever reason. I've seen countless ppl too young for gear asking for cycle advice. Some of these, we've been able to influence into making better decisions because they did ask for advice. The more info just thrown out there for the general public, the lesser the need for advice. Too much info can sometimes be a dangerous thing, bc some ppl have to be protected from themselves.
The statements you've made about insulin and T3 are 100% accurate, but a bit out of context. I'm diagnosed with hypotestosteronism and am prescribed testosterone along with some ancillaries. If I stick to my prescribed doses, side effects are minimal to non-existent. When I exceed those doses, say for a blast, side effects increase. The higher the dosages, the more prevalent the sides. Common sense right?
Just like with anything we supplement beyond our bodies' natty level, side effects develope. Different compounds carry different side effects, and some are more serious than others.
Insulin is by far one of the most dangerous substances to supplement for performance enhancement purposes. Yes, it restores healthy function for people with natty deficiencies. Test does the same thing for me, but do you think I supplement only what my body fails to produce? Fuck no.
That's what we do here, bro. We supplement shit to enhance performance, not to treat a medical issue. Certain info has to be kept out of the hands of certain ppl. That's why we have groups setup for ppl of all experience levels.
Perfect........... +3
TARANISIts not the life saving aspect and true intention of these drugs that are being talked about here, its the blatant abuse of dangerous drugs for the purpose they were not intended .
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Abuse certainly is the problem which leads me to believe that ignorance is the reason behind it. The purpose of my comment wasn't to promote these drugs but to show, "that even though a member may disagree, they should respect eroids enough to obey the rules."
So after reading the initial post, i have to know how bad is injecting insulin really for you, i personally would never mess with it because i have no need and i am not diabetic, but i do have this ignorant friend who appears to be buying everything that is pushed to him from another forum...needless to say my buddy has never cycled before and now he is blasting tren and test, then plans to cruise with test, on top of that he was told to be injecting insulin twice a day, i mean what is going on, why are people out there pushing this shit to people. Am i just crazy or is this kind of screwed up. I'm really glad as a new member that eroids doesn't push this stuff, and stands against bad advice.
I was guilty of considering this myself all because a person I thought knew what they were talking about....really had no idea what it was about. Tren is for a few. STAY AWAY IF YOUR NOT A PROFESSIONAL.
Haha..wonder who that was?????? Hmm
this is why I love eroids
BillLumberghI never understand why so many people jump on pretty harsh compounds.
Funny when I see a jackass cycle log and I've made way more gains in my 9+ years of lifting hard and heavy using creatine monohydrate/ smart lifting programs/enough calories to grow.
Thought I'd add to the taboo topic list.
Regarding talk in the SI section for an unverified SRC, there should be none. Don't start threads there, and don't post pics from unverified src's.
That's the law according to BFG.
CRASHED AXIS!
Superb title for a video game lol