posted Mon, 08/11/2014 - 16:15
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Thoughts on Tren A
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I see ppl post cycles, I will just use this as an example.
1-18 Test E
1-16 Eq
1-14 Mast E
which is a fav of mine. But they throw Tren A at the beginning with Test P to kickstart it. I usally will use Test P as a kicker. I tend to use Tren A as my finish to my cycle with prop instaed of at the beginning
What is everyones thoughts on using the Tren A at the beginning compared to the end.
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Tren question is out ofmy league but I love that stack up there with var on the tail!
It is a great cycle one of my favorites for good quality gains that most of it you will keep after cycle is over. Add var and that cycle is killer. Just keep an eye on BP, donate blood when possible.
I got an awesome endo... She pulls bloods every3-4 weeks when I run EQ and drains me when i need it.
RustyhookerCan't beat that! And you're right about var finish. Var/mast p hardens and dries without harshness of tren. Saw palmetto for prostate. So much easier
Can't beat saw palmetto for the prostate. It works and it works quickly. I also finished with tren A but it wasn't short, I started it at the halfway point of the cycle. The finish was awesome. I don't know if 3-4 weeks would be enough tho. It does seem to kick in quickly. I am an impatient knucklehead tho so I don't recommend anybody following me..
RustyhookerIt was just getting to boom at week 4. I started sweating a lot end week 2. Hit new PR at week 4 that was kinda freaky. Had everyone nearby jaw dropped. Pct started next day. Lol
This was truly the first cycle where I did not want to stop at all. I was pleasantly surprised that the saw palmetto kept me in good shape even with MastE. I slept pretty damn good overall for the entire cycle. Even the tren, had some ridiculous night sweats and crazy, crazy dreams but I still slept pretty good.
RustyhookerI was worried because Winny didn't let me sleep much so i figured tren was going to be rough. Slept like a sweaty rock. Lol
I was really bracing for a tough recovery but so far (knock on wood) I am still feeling pretty good.
RustyhookerI frontloaded my cycle. Clipped all long Esters same time (sust//mast e/eq)). Had var running already 2 Weeks. Just mast p/tren a/var for final 4. Gotta watch bp. Low dose on both shorts. Hit a new pr....390x15 decline isopress. I wont know the success til pct finishes. Also, longer cycle with a known hard shutdown chem. We shall see
I did the Test e/ EQ/ Test p kicker. Then finished with Tren a/Mast/Prop at the end and it worked amazing. Hit PR, gained good size that I kept a majority of after. Thats why I love EQ you can keep a majority of your gains after PCT. I did bloods at the end of cycle and they looked wierd because of the tren I was told but when PCT was done they were normal.
Its a good cycle if you stay clean and dedicated to diet and training afterwards.
Tren A doesn't kick start anything but Tren E (IMHO). I wouldn't even use it as a finisher unless you're gonna run it 6-8 weeks. Everyone has their habits. If I run Tren then it's a Tren cycle for me or a conventional cut stack. What u r describing is not something I would do for myself or suggest to someone else.
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I agree with gearhead, and using tren a as a kick to anything but tren e imo would possibly hamper the results the other compounds could have yielded
I have been hearing more and more people talk about using tren a as a finisher in longer cycles but it is typically the last 6-8 weeks like gearhead also mentions but they run the test a couple weeks past the tren a to ease coming of it. This is something that Ive been considering giving a try in the future
I would use Tren/mast/prop at the end of a nice lean bulk for the hardening effects to get that overall nice finish. Im not big on Tren though either ester.
I just have seen this and wonder, why? What would it do for you at the beginning of a cycle such as that? But like you said everyone has their habits, I just like to see the reasoning behind it. Maybe they are onto something, or maybe they are just out of their minds lol.
got sidetracked while posting my response, then when I finished it up saw that you posted this and my logic is the same as yours on it. I think maybe the logic of those that choose to kickstart with it are thinking in terms of trying to pack on as much muscle or cut as much fat as fast as they can without regards for the overall cycle and what better to do it with if your only looking at the results and not the sides. I would think coming off tren at the beginning would leave the other compounds feeling sort of flat so to say.