posted Wed, 07/30/2014 - 17:41
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Blood After Sub-Q HGH Shot
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Had a bit of a scare today doing my Sub-Q shot.
Injected Sub-Q in the Middle Ab Section and when withdrawing the Needle what looked like a fair bit of Blood quickly came out.
I put the Swab back on it and wiped a couple of times and the Bleeding stopped leaving a Pea sized lump under the skin a small circular bruise.
I injected very slowly 4iu over 30 seconds or so as I was starting to develop Red Welts at the injection site and slowly injecting seemed to resolve this.
It made me panic a little as I don't aspirate Sub-Q. Is it ok to use the middle of the belly as well as the lower part.
My Bodyfat is around 18% so I doubt i'm going direct into the Muscle as yet.
Any advice would be appreciated.
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Happens to me sometimes. The blood comes from piercing a blood vessel on the way in. It happens bro.
The lump generally comes from injecting too close to the surface. I pin GAC with slin pins in my delts to help with inflammation and tendinitis issues. Needles are 1/2" long. I get a lump almost every time. Sub q, I pull a skin fold and inject at the base. This helps to put the injection deeper.
i'm using slins with 1/2" spike so it's going well in. There's a good Inch of Fat so no fear of it going into the muscle quite yet !!
However I suppose the middle 2 abs are a fair bit leaner as I carry more Fat in the lower section.
I originally added the middle section when I started welting to give the areas a rest so I may stay with the bottom section unless the welts come back.
Generally I don't get any knots or lumps immediately after injection. Perhaps I hit and collapsed a small Vein or vessel as that's what it looked like.
It scared the crap out of me. More so because I was half asleep and when the blood came gushing out I soon woke up !!
It did stop really quick with a couple of wipes of the swab.
more then likely you hit a vein. ideally gh would be best injected intravenously, but for convenience it is injected subq or IM. just be more conscious of where you inject
I've never even heard of it being done this way... From a medical standpoint, hgh is a medicine, and medicines are designed and formulated specifically for the given route of entry. They are injected sub q or IM because that is what they are designed for, not out of convenience.
I hope no one reads this and actually thinks it's a good idea to start IV injecting hgh and bac water. I could be wrong but that don't even seem practical.
and easy with the negs doss, should be a little more educated on the subject before doing so.
I only know of a few people who inject GH IV but they all are high level competitors.
don't want to get to deep in to it but ill explain a little. iv injected gh clears faster so it mimics your body"s pulsatile nature of GH, which allows you to dose higher frequent amounts with less side effects. i am not encouraging anyone to do this, and probably shouldn't be used this way. although there are a lot of competing bodybuilders who use it like this and medical studies which show the quick increase in gh serum and faster clearance, so used post workout helps create intracellular mgf . subq or IM injections increase igf for extended periods of time, which is better for fat burning.
Lemme ask you this then: why spend the money if you're gonna only provide one simulated pulse, when you can spend a fraction of the cost and use peps to get the same effect?
Even still, even if there is medical data to validate your argument, which I've not yet seen, info like this shouldn't be put in the general forums. IMO that would be a more advanced approach and should only be in the advanced group.
I think a lot of ppl would agree that we don't wanna start encouraging people to IV inject their gear. And by making info like this available, that's exactly what you're doing - encouraging.
no peptide will mimic what gh can do, and i stated with it clearing faster, higher doses and more frequent injections can be used, not a single simulated pulse.
should this information be intended for advanced users, absolutely, especially with all this cheap counterfeit growth which will do more harm then good. by no means necessary should anybody be using this protocol without proper education and experience.
To me that sounds like a mimicked, or simulated pulse.
Just depends on the peptide brother. Some stimulate natty release, while some just mimic the hormone.
A single 100 mcg shot of GHRP can induce a greater pulse than what you get from the average hgh shot. The difference lies in the duration the hormone remains present. Hgh vs peptides will last significantly longer when using the advised route of entry (IM or subQ).
If I'm understanding you right, you're taking the duration down to a similar level of what we get with peps. To me, using higher, more frequent doses of hgh isn't really a benefit to me. No matter how it's dressed up.
I can see competitors doing this so that it clears faster and reduces detection time for shows, but it's not economical or ideal for the majority of people. Especially, considering that the best results are reaped when the most time is spent with hormones at an active level. This is why we recommend 12 weeks for enanthate instead of 10 weeks like we see proposed in the cycle logs from time to time. It's all about maximizing time spent during active and peak levels.
lmao and it's definitely the Fat Burning that I need so no more Blood gushes for me.. hopefully !
One sure fire way to wake yourself up quickly though ;-)
What do you mean by be more conscious of where I inject ?
Is the Middle Ab section no good ? Should I stay with the 2 sides inline with my Belly Button ?
Instead of 2" to the side I went 2" Diagonal. I think this is within the safe zone.
However I think I will avoid the middle zone on the side I got the problem from now on !
Sub q literally means subcutaneous (just below the skin). You can do a quick google search and find a diagram of where subQ tissues are located.
You can find subQ tissues throughout the body and subQ injections can be given in many places other than the abs. We chose this spot out of convenience.
There are still veins that run over your abdominal area. Sounds like you just hit one. The hgh will absorb just fine. Make sure you are injecting sub q correctly. Pinching skin and shooting not just plunging it into your stomach. You'll be fine though. Bruised for a few days but nothing major
Cheers for the advice Bro.
I always grab a chunk of fat so that I can feel my Abs below my finger tips.
It does make me feel uncomfortable not Aspirating, but was loving the ease of Sub-Q before this incident !
Although I dare say if it does go into the blood stream it's better being Water than Oils...
Ah well scare over it's been over 1 hour and i'm still alive and kicking so it's back to bed for a few more hours of good sleep ;-)