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Water based test is no fun.
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Go some 21g needles instead of the 25g I use for oil. draws fine no problems. Go to inject and it gets clogged. Have to push super hard and when it un clogs the whole ml shoots into my muscle at the speed of light. Tried to warm it in the needle with a heating pad tonight to thin it out a little more and it didn't help. It only hurts for like 30 seconds after. Is my only option getting bigger needle? Is a 20g really gonna make a big difference or is this just how it is? I don't think I wanna put a 18g harpoon into my body. Balkan only makes water based and I don't wanna go back to the small domestics but I think I'm gonna have to.
Shit works great and hits hard about an 1-2 hours later but this sucks. So what's my options ? Just suck it up?
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Bro when it clogs on me all I do is pull back on the plunger a little like when aspirating and then resume to pushing the suspension in. Works like a charm.
Just did what you said and it clogged once and then went in smooth. That really helped thanks man.
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Word I'll try that. I'll figure it out I got a few options now. Seems like there just some technique involved with it. That or stab yourself with an 18g harpoon and risk bleeding out.
Guys, the title is misleading, injecting it is no fun lol. But if you get that shit in you some how holy shit. Did arms tonight and literally had to stop my biceps were so pumped. The craziest pump ive ever experienced in my life. I love this stuff. Best pre workout ever.
ran that stuff once and what a pain in the ass(literally too) it was. Fkn poke myself like 5 times to get one barrel full in! the only thing I found that worked was pinning at an upward angle. LOL
heres the deal, if you load that barrel, hold the needle to the ceiling and disperse itll come out, hold it to the ground and its gets stuck as fuck. pin upward slightly and bend barrel toward ground so needle is higher then plunger and you will have "better" results!
Your 100% right, i would take the fucker back out point it up and squirt and it would come out no problem. Put it back in and it gets stuck. Im gonna give your advice a shot next time i use it. Really trying to only use it for leg day.
well dont keep to high of hopes, the stuff is just a pain in the ass and is meant for an 18guage. I tried 20 still no bueno. I would use TNE instead.
Ya Im definitely gonna get the tne next time but i had the ashop promo coupon so i said fuck it ill grab some. Gonna start doing some research on a good tne source. I worry about starting to rely on this stuff to much. My 750mgs of test ew next cycle will turn into 1500 real quick using this stuff every day. Definitely want it on leg day, and maybe with arms since there lagging. Little extra boost to really push it hard that day. I wonder how 50mgs pre workout would work? I could use it alot more if I only used 50mgs.
RustyhookerOne brew er suggested the finer the grind premaking it makes the difference. Seems logical
RustyhookerI saw on a forum to heat and shake/swirl with blowdryer prior to draw made it easier.
I have no problem drawing it whatsoever. It's only when I go to inject it. I'm gonna have to try and heat it up more next time once it's in the needle. I've been reading online that most people have no problem getting it through a 25g or even a 27. So I should have no problems with a 21.
You hitting an area with scar tissue?
Doubt it. Id have to be real unlucky to hit scar tissue 3 times in a row.
RustyhookerHope you find a way. I used to run vet Winny thru a 23 no problem without heating it.
RustyhookerMsds sheet shows melt point of 139° so i wondered if it coagulated. Clumped basically.
Like when I heated it? I don't think so cause this also happened the very first time I used it and I didn't heat it. And today's when I took it out of my quad and pressed kinda hard about a 1/4ml came squirting out. I been reading online and it's like 50% of people have the same problem and the other 50% can shoot it through a 27g slin pin. One I put some force on it in my quad it suddenly all shot into my muscle. Really uncomfortable feeling lol. I just wanna get some oil based tne. But I got another 10 amps on the way right now from ashop. But dude if you can figure out how to get it into your body this stuff is the real deal. Best preworkout ever. Like a surge of smooth clean focused energy with insane pumps. Not a shitty cracked out feeling from stuff like jacked and c4 I really love it. Doing arms right now and I got a monster pump after only 2 sets of bis and I just feel great. I'll figure this out. I been reading a lot about it and it seems like there's a technique to injecting it without clogging it.
RustyhookerI ran the tne this morning like vike suggested. Great pumps! Winter bulker I'll run it with carbo force half hour pwo. Get that carb load and pump. I didn't notice extra focus but life right now is very hectic. But did enjoy the pump.
Its like subtle in some ways but totally there in others. Like if someone secretly injected you you could probably not even notice it. Youd just think wow i feel great right now. Very clean energy and massive pumps, i mean huge painful pumps. I shot it about 30 pr 45mins my first time the other day and it was way to close to my workout, it kicked in when i got home. Seems like 2hrs is perfect. You just get a great feeling of well being, feel very awake and energized without the speed feeling of stims. Idk its hard to explain, I think i expected to much from it, but Its a totally different feeling then i expected but equally as good. Im on a low cal/low carb diet and I still had some monster pumps. Cant even imagine what it would be like after eating a ton of carbs all day.
RustyhookerLow carbs is tough. Cycle carbs to avoid tge flat spots. Im definitly not Mr 6pk abs.
lol I hear ya bro, but I'm trying to become mr 6 pack abs. But fuck I love bad food and especially soda. I knkw it's bad. Really been good about limiting myself to only a few tons a week during my cut tho. Tried coke Zero, diet sprite, diet snapple, all fucking gross. But I figured out a way to cheat without actually cheating. You need fasting acting carbs post workout, so that's when I'll drink a soda lol. Alteast that's how I justified it. But give my carb cycling diet a shot. You get high carbs (300g) on your big muscle groups like back legs and chest, lower carbs on days like shoulders and arms either 200 or 100g and low carbs on off days, 50 grams in one meal. The diet has worked awesome for me.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/weight-loss/my-detai...