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Stopped Pinning NPP - Do I need to do anything else?

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I had originally ran a Sustanon 300(450mg per week) + NPP cycle but after being schooled I decided to drop the NPP... You can read about it in my cycle logs. (It was a terrible week, just like I was warned, but I had pinned 2ml already, so I had to ride it out for a week.)

I just wanted to see if I had to do anything else? I'm running the Sustanon still and feel 10000x better. Its no comparison, but I will say as far as pump and weights go, I feel like I lost alot. It's hard to explain, but I definitely felt so beastly on the NPP but it was quite scary at the same time.

Again, I pinned 2ml of NPP the first week and stopped, I just want to ask if there is anything else I should be doing since I stopped it.

Adex comes tomorrow so I'm stoked to be on that.

Thanks bros, any help is very appreciated.

I also have 2 bottles of Test Prop, wondering if that is something I should save for the next cycle, or could I incorporate that into this. I know Sustanon has a little... I know...

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birdbear27's picture

How far into the npp did you start getting the crazy sides?

PIN_CUSHION's picture

VVV

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Yes I came to post the cycle I think on tuesday or wednesday the day of my last NPP pin. I did what everyone said and stopped

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Yea I remember the cycle log I just couldn't remember if you had already started or that's what you were proposing.

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Yeah I came in like a cocky little shit saying "this is what I have and this is what im gonna run" attitude... LOL

So i got tore up, started fixing things and then got some support. ^_^

Catalyst's picture

Takes a big man to put his hands up when they get it wrong. Fair play for your comment.

Everyone needs to remember we don't lay into people just to be arseholes, it's tough love as you're messing with hormones, serious ones at that. If that means a fe take it personally, so be it.

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I am very thankful now. I was just so excited to get to it as I had terrible experiences in the past.

I admit, I was an idiot. I entrusted a few friends at the gym and It cost me. "Broscience" was not any good.

At the time I just wanted to dive head first, but now I wish I had done what was recommended and just went with a single ester test and see what happens, but its too late.

I feel at home here, I was told by the bros at the gym to suck it up and take it like a man, but what they didn't get was I was obviously not responding well to the NPP. Maybe it was the NPP? Maybe it was too soon? Maybe I didnt inject deep enough? Alot could have happened but when they told me to suck to suck it up I was furious. They didn't give two fucking shits... and these are guys ive known for 10 years....

So I sat back, quit the NPP and corrected my cycle and and now am very happy. I'm happy I am still here to live another day and put on some mean lbs. I seriously think if I continued on my original plans I would ended up in the ER.

I cant blame anyone but myself, and now after reading all the stickies I see the approach was wrong.

I will say though in that first week, the pump and strength skyrocketed, which I didn't understand. I thought it would have taken weeks to kick in... But the sides definitely overcame the good about it.

this place is the shti!

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Oh I remember, lol

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Yeah can I blame the gear for the attitude? hahahaah

birdbear27's picture

No!

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Yeah, I came into it thinking I knew it all, when in reality I knew jack shit. I trusted my buddies at the gym relying on "broscience"... didnt work out well for me

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It was day 2 to day 6 and then they slowly subsided. It started to go away 1 day after my last pin. The sides came on nearly 20 minutes after pinning

I only pinned 200mg Monday & Wednesday and by saturday they started to fade

birdbear27's picture

Woah. Not what I thought it was. Pm me I wanna figure this out.

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i dont really know how to pm yet? do i gotta add you? LOL

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Yeah I got you

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For future reference. If you run NPP from the start Kick with Test prop also. If not wait until about week 4 to add the NPP. You flooded your system with nandrolone, and didn't have enough test built up.

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thanks bro

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Now that I did more research, I've been hearing that's the norm. I was entrusting my bros at the gym which totally fucked me. But I cant blame them. It was my fault so I'm trying to get in as much info as I can.

I have 2 bottles of test prop, would it benefit in any way to run along side the sust 300 ( It has a little prop already) or would it be more effective to just wait it out and save for another day?

And since I dropped the NPP, there is nothing I need to do?

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At this point in time I see no benefit in using Prop. Like you said Sust has prop in it. I would recommend splitting your weekly Sust does into M-W-F, to better utilize the blend of esters. Sust is a pretty tricky compound for early in your AAS use. In the future I'd stick with Test E or C. One Ester and much easier to keep blood levels constant.

The NPP has cleared your system so there shouldn't be anything more you need to do.

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Thanks Pin Cushion!

I'll save the prop for another day. Yeah I definitely went into this not knowing what I should have known before running a cycle. I went with the broscience but I'm glad there have been some great people on here to guide me along the way.

I'm currently at 1/2 CC M-W-F. I'm definitely going to try one of the longer esters next time.

Now say next year if I wanted to run the test E or C, would there be benefit to "front loading" or "jump starting" with prop in the first few weeks? I've read that a few times but not sure if thats a sound procedure.

Thanks bro

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I'd say get another cycle or two under your belt first. One where it's Test the whole way no hiccups or anything, so you know exactly what to expect. Then consider one of those two.

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Ok bro. Well i'll be posting the cycle towards the end of the year after I've recovered! Cheers.

Maybe I'll do two, one Test E and one Test C and see how they reacted alone on me and then plan after those.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Sounds good. Diet will dictate results.

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who knows maybe i'm allergic, but I probably wont touch NPP again. It sounded like the horror stories you hear about tren, which I didn't understand. But I also hear that its like a cousin to tren 19-nor.

Maybe I did it wrong... But that was enough for me to stop

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Tight chest/pain, sweats, high BP, Fast heart rate, Cough, it was fuckign scary. I also had extreme anxiety... Like paranoia anxiety..

It was not the test flu, I stopped pinning the NPP and is subsided in a 2 days...

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Bro, no joke same thing happened to me. I thought I was dying lol I ended up in the er last night as a result. I sent you a friend request, pm me bro