Just ONE cycle?
I've been debating with myself lately. Let me just go over my plan first. Feel free to rip it apart, unless it makes sense?
Stats and History: 25. 5'10". 165lb. 9%bf. 2 DS cycles (over a few years ago).
Plan:
My ideal physique would me being around 180-190 lbs at under 10% bf. (I have a small frame, so it would look really good). I have no desire being a meat head with overly developed muscles.
With one or two cycles, achieve my ideal physique in less than a year, and simply work to maintain that physique.
Why the idea of doing a cycle or two when I can achieve that naturally? I've always heard you can't buy time. But this is what I'd be doing. Instead of taking 3 years to get there naturally, I would take less than one year to achieve my ideal physique. Therefore having an extra two years at the physique I want, in my prime youthful years.
BUT. Two things have crossed my mind. Can I STILL maintain that physique? Does a cycle or two affect the way my body can naturally maintain a frame like that? Even if I eat right and train hard?
Second question, do you feel like you have to do just ONE more cycle to get there? Will my ideal physique be subject to numerous future cycles to maintain/improve?
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Nice link.....good work, brother....
Can you elaborate on your cycle history? And, tell me what your diet has been over the course of the last six months?
About four years ago I ran a Halodrol solo cycle. About 3 years ago a DMZ solo cycle. PCT both times and bloods done with good feedback.
Diet:
Meal 1: oatmeal square cereal, protein shake, almonds.
Meal 2: 1.5 chicken breast with .5 cup oats. glass of milk.
Post workout: Banana, protein shake w/ honey. Glass of milk.
Meal 3: 2 tilapia filets with .5 cup oats or whole wheat pasta with glass of milk.
Meal 4: Black bean burritos w fat free cheese and whole wheat tortillas w glass of milk.
Meal 5: Greek yogurt, almonds, glass of milk
Meal 6: (sometime throughout the day) weight gainer shake
That's pretty much sums up a typical day.
What are the calories and macros breakdown???
Are u eating 1.5g of protein per pound of body weight?
And, is 75% of that figure in the form of food like salmon, chicken, beef, eggs, hog, etc.
And is your CHO intake adjusted to where you fuel your caloric expenditures?
Easily 1.5g protein per body weight.
I'd say about 65-80% protein from foods. (only 2-3 shakes from protein per day. Try to make all my meals are based around protein from meats/dairy.
I will have to evaluate my CHO again, and expenditures.. but I try to keep it to whole complex carbs, like oats, brown rice, sweet potatoes.
Food what he needs for sure ten or 15 pounds so attainable in a year at his age
Exactly. I want him to take the time to text it in the box, so i can get him to learn by doing....becuz the answer to his question is contingent on his body type, diet, and workout routine. You and i, as well as, several other members know that gains are made in the kitchen. Ripping the muscle to shreds while lifting helps. But, feeding the muscle with good wholesome food is where the tire hits the road....no aas needed.....yea it helps decrease catabolism and promote anabolism keepin ya in a positive nitrogen balance, but only so much....
Very well said plus one trying to find Viking shake one in the morning one at night to add to his meals this will beef him up just cant remember where it's at lol
Looks like u found it....two of those per day and he will meet his goals....
Steroids aren't shortcuts. If u can't get to 180 ta 190 all natty u have no business running a cycle. U would just set yourself up for failure. Your diet is off if u can't gain that little bit of weight all natty at your age. U do a cycle and u may get there but u will lose everything cause u don't eat right to gain or maintain muscle mass
I didn't say I can't get there naturally.. I don't want to be a 200+lb meat head. Yes, I am looking for a shortcut.. What is wrong with shaving two years off of my bodybuilding goals?
If u can get there all natty. Why in the would u want to take a chance of messing up your hpta. Lol u been 200 pounds at five foot ten isn't what I would call a meat head. You young guys just don't get it. This is bout hard work dedication. It's bout eating then training and the last resort steroids. Steroids aren't shortcuts u go with that attitude and u will fail. Btw u say u can get there natty well then steriod are used when u reach your full potential u are just cheating yourself
I'm here to learn, hence why I'm asking questions. 200+ lbs 5'10" is not very aesthetically appealing. Too big IMO.
Do you even read what I say? Or just what you want to read? I never said I'm going to stop training hard or eating right. Fail in what regards? You are very confusing.
Bro, I'm 5'10 200lbs. Look at my most recent pics and in at 14% bf and you'll see it's not meathead. I look more like an athlete than a bodybuilder and I have a small frame too. People look at me and know I lift but most people ask what position in football I play because I'm not a monster
I don't think you want my opinion.
Definitely meat head lol
I've read exactly what u said but up aren't reading what I am saying it's not the answers u want. U are 25 u have a lot of natty test running thru your body right now if all u want is to gain 10 or 15 pounds u don't need steroids. Steroids aren't shortcuts they are used when u build a base over years of working out and have reached your maximum potential all natural. U just stated u could get there all natty so u have not reached your potential.by running a cycle before u reach your potential u are cheating yourself. U don't need steroids to reach 180
That makes more sense, thank you. Again I am here to learn. I know I don't NEED steroids to get to my ideal image. But can I ask again, what is wrong with saving two years of bodybuilding goals? 20+lb lean muscle mass is going to take more than two years.
The problem with the typical steroid mentality is if I take steroids when I reach my full potential at 185 lbs or whatever (in over two years, mind you) just one cycle is going to take me to 200+ lbs and I'm going to look retarded. So I really don't want to go that route.
Maybe you are right. One steroid cycle or two might not be for me. That is what I am trying to get at. Basically, is it worth the "risks" and trouble. And is just one or two cycles feasible for my goal.
Honestly real talk brother it's not worth the risk for u at such an attainable goal all natural. Your endocrine system at your age can still not be fully matured and in turn can cause a lot of damage to u. Personally if all your want is a little lean mass it's really not worth the risk. I understand your desire to take the easy route but in the long run the harder route is truly more fullfing in life
I appreciate that outlook. An opinion I wanted to hear from someone actually. I'm not set in stone on taking the easy way out. It might just be worth the wait.. Trt is not something I would ever want to have.
There's so many variables a cycle could affect u and truly u need to sit down and make an informed decision. Imho u can reach this goal in a year if u eat .have u seen Viking shakes. Two of those a day proly would do it for u post up your diet