+ 12 switching compounds so the receptors dont get over saturated
I read this alot, however im not such a believer. or maybe I might believe it a little bit but feel that it is over rated. I can not honestly say that while cycling I switched some compounds and gained an extra 10 pounds. Has anyone? im not talking estro weight, or weight because of increased calories. Im talking about 8 weeks into a cycle and switching compounds and it be anything close to the beginning when receptors where ready, im talking about running test-e and EQ and at week 8 all of a sudden you gain weight? not like 3 or 4 more pounds till end of cycle I mean like you did in the beginning?
ive read some articles a few years back about receptors and how different steroids adhere to them and sure it all sounded legit, and maybe it is, but my experience is that its hardly worth the effort. once im saturated by any steroid the rest add very little.
Maybe this term is more for guys that compete and what the compound does at the higher levels of building, but for the vast majority of us that do this for enjoyment and personal gains I just dont understand it.
But it is still parroted around so im curious, those of you they say this what is your experience?
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I will say this though. I have ran a trt dose through a couple cycles and in the off time. Meaning it was like 8 months of other compounds and just trt. After coming off last cycle I bumped up my test dose and noticed a big difference. Which lead me to believe that test (and tren) have stronger binding abilities then other compounds. But since we use test as base it's not noticed much.
I agree; aren't the receptors already saturated by whatever compound you are currently on? Do we have an infinite number of receptors in our bodies to try and trick? I think in order to see any difference would be when switching drop the one you were currently using in other words if on Deca drop it and the next week add your other compound. It's gonna be tough unless you pull bloods to see where you are the week before switching a compound and then another 3 weeks after that to see what is going on. Better to be safe then limp dick. Unless what I am saying is what they mean; then if that is the case I can see it working if you manipulate your macro's to match what you are doing.
RustyhookerOops.
lol I saw that! and yep I agree it sounds like itll work, thats what we have been taught. Mix up esters, shorts longs and keep receptors guessing.
But if this where true, if there really was receptors that were not being used then why couldnt we just continue to grow? If i ran a simple test-e cycle for 12 weeks and gained 16-18 pounds, then week 13 added halo and NPP shouldnt i expect to see another 10-15 pounds? according to what people say this should be possible, but it has never been my story.
if there is receptors waiting to be used then i should be able to switch compounds and grow on the same diet and that has not been my experience either.
RustyhookerI've read many of those theories and even with food changes to boost growth, there's always been that plateau. It would seem that you could pull out the toxic/uber advanced gear but at what cost?
For my next cycle I thought about doing a build. Where i use 100mg eod, then I add in another short ester 3 weeks later, then add proviron to increase free test the last 4 weeks. Big doses aren't needed in the first few weeks of a cycle anyways. Shit I feel like i grow without trying for he first few weeks.
AnonThis is something that i dont really know if works or not... but i have gotten gains from switching late in cycle with the 19 nors... i have switched from deca to.tren e late in a cycle and done well but it also elevated my prolactin quite drasticly in which i had to increase cabergoline... but gains did increase., was it like the beginning when compounds first kicked in? no but it did get things moving again some... and honestly i really didnt care for that cycle.. i just didnt feel right its hard to explain
ive done similar with shorts, like test prop/npp 6 weeks with drol pulsing then switched to test prop/ tren ace dbol pulsing 6 weeks, constant gains, i think its shocking the system, i gained 8kgs that run.
waltrI am suprised to see you post this noid...
From a former Mr.Rhode Island.
Every 8 weeks rotate 750mg of test.
500Iu hcg every 2 weeks.
5Iu hgh 5 on 2 off.
Eq 400mg weekly.
Dbol 50mg 4 weeks.
Drol 50mg 4 weeks.
Stanzonol 50mg 4 weeks.
4 weeks off, keep taking hgh and hcg.
Repeat as necessary.o
You need to fix your shitty stats too.
Age: getting older every day
& bf: total fat ass ...... WTF
good ol walter.... i remember him, he used to have 300+ karma, got wiped to zero in some big scandal a year ago, ebc competitor, and i beleive non stop cycling for multiple years, this is probably his cycle......
THIS.................... >
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/waltr...-weve-been-watc...
LOL................. WTF is that! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ something you found written on the back of a shithouse door by the looks of it............. thats far worse than the brain dead kids post in the cycles section.
Liver pate anyone?.............. and a BIN for the wasted test and EQ.............. WTF are we trying create here? HARD WATER!........ Excuse me while i go have a shower, i laughed that much i pissed myself.:(
well im surprised to see you post this bullshit TBH, ive seen you around, like most people on here i pay little attention to them but ofcourse such a post deserves a tiny bit(not much) of respect, I mean you did say former MR Rhode island.
So being how this cycle set up, or what ever you call this was posted I took a look at your profile. And ill be honest im not seeing a former BBer in there anywhere, not from your pics and not from the forums you started. Hell you even got a forum in there where your asking about how do you flex your lats cause you cant get one of them to flex! WTF? How does a guy go from hours of practice posing, flexing and controlling muscles to not being able to figure out how to flex your lats?
you got anymore pics of you from when you where MR Rhode island? cant see much in your avi
I'm not sure if he's saying he was a former Mr. Rhode island or just that this info came from a former my RI...either way that's kind of the problem the whole post is missing details
AnonCan you elaborate more on what you are suggesting here? thats 3 orals in one cycle? i wouldnt suggest that
X2 what the fuck does that even mean! thats not switching receptors that throwing eveything you got in there and HOPING for something!
Maybe he means the injectable versions of dbol/drol/winn? wouldn't be as harsh on your liver but still shouldn't be taken lightly.. but yeah I'm also confused because this is just throwing everything and the kitchen sink in and not swapping compounds.. if anything this sounds like a good way to over saturate receptors
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I've done this a few times as well and have to agree its not worth it most times...especially when it come to weight gain in general...however there are a few compounds that I feel for whatever reason are better for me on certain muscles or muscle groups...so I have seen where I run one compound get my quads and calves bulked up...then switch to another and work on my traps and Tris...however all and all unless you're competing this isn't usually worth the time or money and I've actually had weird and unpleaurable times sometimes in that first week of the switch...so personally I stick to a cycle without changes half way...maybe addons but not like a full out switch