Oral Winstrol post-shoulder surgery for enhanced recovery
Hi. New here, considering a specific use of oral Winstrol post-surgery.
I'm a 50 year-old male who is having a rotator cuff repair soon. I'm currently on testosterone replacement therapy managed by my physician and have been for three years so it's stable. I inject 0.6 ml of 200 mg/ml T Cyp weekly (= 120 mg T weekly). This results in total T of 700 - 800 and free T of around 35 per regular labs.
This therapy produces good results for health, but only fair result for body composition, so I am making plans for cycles during this year. But.. first, got to get the shoulder fixed after years of putting up with the pain.
After surgery, arm is immobilized for 4 to 6 weeks, then passive ROM for 4 weeks, then active ROM exercises begin. Total recovery 6+ months. (Time frames are best estimates, actual will depend on what surgeon ends up doing).
Wondering if a moderate cycle of oral Winstrol at 25 mg/day would benefit surgical recovery. I was considering running the cycle 4 weeks while immobilized, which is when the tendon is adhering to the bone. Then breaking for a month during the passive ROM phase, then running another 4 week cycle at same dose when active ROM begins.
Then would take a longer break and begin my long-planned actual cycle when I can work out more aggressively.
T replacement therapy would continue throughout unchanged.
Thoughts on value, if any, of doing this during post-surgical recovery? Will it mess up anything regarding the healing process?
Thanks.
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Hey Scowei. I partially tore my rotator cuff about a year ago. I incorporated winstrol into a short cycle in early spring. By week 4, I was dreading my upper body workouts because my elbows and shoulders felt so achy. I dropped the cycle after 6 weeks. The pain was relieved upon cessation of winny within a month or so. On a separate note, I incorporated a little Deca into a recent cycle with Test E. Within 3 weeks all symptoms of my rotator cuff had dissipated and it didn't bother me once thereafter during the cycle. It's now been 4 weeks since my last deca pin. I'd say that shoulder now feels about 90% -- I notice it but no comparison to before the cycle.
Just wanted to share my recent experience with winny and my rotator cuff issues. In my case, I think it validates what most everyone hear has said.
Thank you, TimberDog. I appreciate your insights on recovery from shoulder injuries. I'm definitely not going to rush into the Winstrol. Plenty of time for that after full recovery. Considering just increasing my T Cyp dosage and/or adding Anavar for a cycle.
I tore my left distal biceps tendon 40% through last summer. The surgeon wanted to cut through the remaining 60% and screw and bolt the tendon back on to the bone. The only option he mentioned that he felt he couldn't ethically offer due to the lack of agreement within the medical community was HGH. If I had access to a supply, he recommended 4-6 IU per day. No guarantees. Recently we did another set of MRIs as a follow up and the tendon has healed with a rarely seen pattern of scar tissue yielding what we both thought was at least as good as a 90% repair. It will never be 100% without the surgery but it saved me $20,000 in insurance deductibles and a good 8-12 months out of the gym. Winstrol removes fluid from joints - can't imagine the implication of that in attempting a surgical recovery.
Lots of great input and I really appreciate it. Not sure I'm ready to spring for the cost of HGH. Considering just increasing my T dose during recovery phase, then moving on to a cycle after substantial progress made on regaining full active range of motion.
ftcpl2529, thanks for insights on use of Winstrol for injuries and I, too, am curious about the doses that dry out joints. I'm considering just 25mg/day on top of my normal baseline T.
Talk about springing for the cost of HGH? Compare it to the cost of surgery and downtime. It all of a sudden won't seem so bad...
RustyhookerYou're an older feller currently on trt. You might dig up medical reports on hgh and talk to your doctor. Get it prescribed to you at an affordable cost. You're in the age range where wellness clinics prescribe hgh. Try the legal route first.
AnonWinny is hard on joints
It dries you ouy bro
You want to help the healing process get you some good hgh
Definite no to winstrol. Couldn't really imagine anything worse!
I had rotator cuff surgery last August, so I know what you're about to endure. Mine was a subscapularis tear. I used hgh and tb500 to aid my recovery. Can be expensive, but I believe my recovery has been significantly improved as a result.
If you want to chat about it, ask me anything about the surgery etc I'm happy for you to drop me a line if you wish.
What kind of pain did you have once you felt the tear? Overhead? Lateral?
Catalyst, sorry I realize this post is from two years ago, but it popped up when I was searching rotator cuff tears and I had a couple of questions if you are still around. I just found out today...officially at least, that I need to have rc surgery for a partial tear of supraspinatus. The doc says it is 1 - 1.5 cm which is considered medium in size. I was originally diagnosed with a small tear about 5 years ago, and it has slowly gotten worse and then one day 3 months ago I felt it give way a little more. Anyhow, I am still working out now, just avoiding a few exercises that aggravate it and plan on having surgery in September. My question is about your recovery and use of hgh and tb500. I am currently running 4iu generic HGH from top supplier here and wondering what dosages you ran; how you run the TB500 ; and how your recovery progressed. I've had plenty of surgeries before including a pec tear and reattachment, so I am not looking forward to this at all. My pec surgery required a sling for 6 weeks which is what this surgery requires and I'll never forget how much my left side of the body atrophied. I am hoping to alleviate that somewhat and speed up my recovery. Sorry for the long-winded post; any help or suggestions will be great.
Drop me a line on pm. The big question is if you can get hold of genuine TB500?
Fastest way to reach the man would be to send him a FR and a PM. Im sure he'll eventually notice this post, so you can wait around if it's not a rush
Thanks for the heads up, even though he replied a FR or PM would have been better. I'll figure this whole eroids thing out sooner or later.
Thanks for the offer... glad to join this forum as every one is very helpful. I think I've got it pretty well figured out what's going on. Same surgeon did a moderate knee repair on me 3 weeks ago, knows his stuff. I just bought the ice circulating machine they recommend.
Winstrol is hell on your joints. Not a good choice. Ice has some solid advice below (test, hgh, tb-500). Take it slow and steady, especially if you start to cycle. You will re-injure yourself very quickly with your new found strength.
Thank you for your advice. I'll rethink my approach. Also, for the reminder about slow and steady. At my age, my number one goal is to avoid injury, but sometimes it's hard to hold back and take it incrementally.
I fully understand. It took me almost two years to come back from a serious knee injury. I tried to push it early and had a set back. It's just not worth it. Make a solid comeback plan and adjust it as needed. Be patient and you'll be fine.
Did hgh help your knee? Ive been battling on again off again knee pain. Better now but dont want surgery for knee replacement.
RustyhookerPost is many years old. Click his avatar and friend request for faster replies. He's a good dude
Ty man
I recall reading a news story about the healing power of testosterone alone on muscle. In short they smashed up muscle, put it in three petri dishes and treated one with test one with nothing and one with some other drug. The test treated one fused back together faster and stronger than the others.
There is ample evidence in the healing power of HGH, I would highly recommend going that road. Also a peptide called tb-500 is mentioned hear often for its ability to heal muscle.
I don't personally see where Winstrol is going to help you. But I am not expert on WInny.
'THATS THE ANSWER ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ right there............... winstrol is a no-no it will do more harm than good with its drying out effects................................ +3 to iceman.. great advice bro.
Thanks for the input. I appreciate it.
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