+ 1 Steroids for Females
I tried searching for some info on some gear for girls but havent been given any "beginner" info. Obviously for a guy its a test only cycle for 12 weeks, AI and Pct... but my girl wants to get on something to help cut. I want to put her on Var but don't know if she needs anything to run with it. Test doesnt sound right because shes a girl. Does she still need an AI? PCT? anything? and what dose of var am i feeding her?
Her stats:
5'8"
145lb
IDK her BF but she has 2 top abs and she has lean legs. flat stomach, her back has good definition.
Shes been lifting for 3 years, taking all the normal protein supps ect. I got her into the weight side of things and she wants to cut hard. cardio 4 times per week (HIIT) and heavy weights 5 times per week. Diet is on point.
Any help would be appreciated!
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Wow, that's a lot of training! 5# a week to go heavy isn't really possible. Back off to full body 3 # a week and this will build solid mass. More muscle= harder and more defined body. Keep on cardio. Clenbuterol is a killer. ECA is even worse!!!
Please don't put her through this nightmare! Do 10 mg of var a day and get albuterol( salbutamol tabs)
thanks everyone for the help. I am goign to get her going on clen for now with a low dose and work up for a 2wk on 2 wk off cycle, using ECA during off times. I ordered some 5mg var so I will start with 5mg per day and try to work to 10 for her.
Can anyone tell me how long she should be on/off? I know guys is time on + PCT= Time off but what about women. Im thinking she can run it for 8 weeks then pop off it for 8 weeks, unless someone can correct me?
Time on=time off is good. If she wants to get regular bloods done however she could probably get away with taking less time off providing all levels are normal as girls done have to worry about put and suppression etc.
Also I may be wrong about this but from my understanding doesn't running era on off weeks of clen mess things up? I have read they compete for the same receptors so it's best to use one or the other
I have done the on off for clen/eca and had great results. ECA i bleieve is not a beta2 antogonist like clen so they dont interact the same way with the body. I do benadryl at night to clear the receptors but everytime i hop back to clen i have to work my way up again
Ahh fair enough bro
I've had advise from the top on this and time on=time off is a good way to stay safe.
I have a bit of experience on this. I am currently coaching my gf for her first comp..
Gear wise, the best starting point for a girl is anavar. 5-10mg a day and see how she goes from there. Usually it's recommended to not go much higher than 20mg however some girls can handle a pot more without any negative sides and then there are girls which cannot and need to stay lower.
Other compounds which are on the safer side are prime and Stana/winny
As for Fat loss girls can take t3 and clen. My gf has had a good response to these.
The key is to start them off very low and see how they respond to the compounds. Most of the time girls cannot go anywhere near as high than guys but having said that my girl can handle t3 and clen at doses that I take.
Another point to note is that girls can run almost anything, it's just a matter of finding a dose that is safe for them. The things I mentioned above though are generally the most common things for girls
i was reading in the "ladies lounge" that winni is not good for girls because it is a DHT product. I would put her on T3 but she has thyroid issues. What dose of clen would you recommend, i know i get to about 125 before i go nuts.
Start her off on 20mcg and work her up slowly. I find that girls are a lot more sensitive to the stuff than guys. Another girl I know who ran clen had to stop it because she kept throwing up and shaking excessively and that was on 40mcg. My gf works her way up to 120mcg however she is a little machine lol, your girl may be different so start her off low and see how she goes.
As for the Stana that's interesting, I've known many girls who have used it with zero issues. Generally only for comp prep though
My wifey tried some var at 10mgs a day and had good results. We went to prop at 80mgs a week and she got muscular as hell and just about raped me twice a day. Sadly she had to stop the prop because of getting really bad acne.
any reasons why prop and not an E or C? how often do you inject since half life is short
Went with prop since it clears your system faster if you run into any problems. I was injecting her 3x's a week. This stuff really worked well with very noticeable results but like I said she started to get bad acne from it.
This is a good start for her here.... if she wants to hardcore and take bodybuilding to the upper levels the fact is she can run just about anything us men do.
There is not one single compound out there now that suzy b has not tried, and at male dosages may i add!..... just as we do she has regular blood tests to make sure we are not pushing the envelope tooooo far, and up to date she has been fine and dandy! you can see from her pics she is healthy enough due to clever cycling and a strict lifestyle regarding nutrition and training.
TIP.... try not to use highly androgenic products too much.... stick with high anabolic low androgenic gear until you get a real feel for things.
thanks for the help Vike. I showed my gal suzy's page and she is in awe and is digging through my stash to learn about everythign lol. thanks again man
lol... yeah! ok cool brother.... take it easy and have fun :)))
I would try her on non-hormonal products if her goal is just to lose weight
and tone up a bit.
thanks dood, yay she is actually at 14% bf right now but you can see her ab outline. she wants to build a bit more lean mass so the var sounds like it woudl work. honestly cutting isnt hard for her, adding lean mass is
Her cardio is the key, the HIIT and the weights are her best chances at leaning out. The Var does help the lean factor, I give my wife 1cc of test prop a month .5cc e2weeks, working out great for her with the 10mg of Var
doesnt the prop clear to fast?
I'm going to enter this discussion cautiously. Primo might be a direction you want to look in. The drug is expensive but women take a very low dose. My other half has just start her first proper cycle on this. If you FR me I can update you on how things go. Just pointing you in the direction of another compound to look at.
thanks man, i just accepted it.... keep me posted on her results
jFitKeep in mind that anavar does not "burn fat". It will increase your lean muscle and therefore make you look harder and leaner. It is also one of the few that works on a calorie restricted diet so therefore it will help you cut if you are dieting at the same time.
Starting at 5mg a day is best. If she handles it well you can go to 10mg daily, split if possible. Sides should be mild and may include a few pimples and irregular/interrupted period. If her voice cracks or starts to change (it shouldn't) then I would recommend stopping. Also, for some, taking a dose late in the day causes insomnia. If this happens, just take the entire dose in the morning.
She does not need anything to "run with it".
She does not need an AI or PCT.
I am going to send you a FR if you have any more questions.
Thank you very much jfit for showing up in here, best he hears the real deal from a real women :))))) +3
appreciate the help. she is lean already but you hit it right, shes is calorie restricting and still lifting hard. I like what var does for me. I just wanted to do the same thing I did when i got into AAS, ask people who know whats going on. thanks for the help
Anonlazy bastard, read the ladies lounge!
Women can run test safely but usually I wouldn't recommend it for younger women.
Var is fine, women don't need the same PCT or on cycle protocols as we do. I would suggest starting var at 5mg and see how she reacts. No AI as aromatising won't be an issue she would have to worry about.
I wouldn't suggest jumping right in to injectables off the bat, that's for another level of female body building.
yea i vaguely remember reading var alone at low dose is good so I will start there. I didnt want to put her on test but ive never given her gear so I wasnt sure. lol i feel like a damn perv lurking in the ladies lounge lmao. thanks for the help badger... didn't know i could count on you for more than gear! lol
Just wait and see who comes in here bro.... if you dont get what you want i,ll come back and sort you out ok.
appreciate it bro, you always guide me right
currently readin in ladies lounge... just so everyone doesnt think im lazy as fuck