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BertStare
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+ 1 Think i'm ready for my first Cycle ?

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Right so I've been lifting for 3 years in April & think I'm ready to try a cycle, i have researched for a over a year, in fact i posted last January 2013 thinking i was ready, I wasn't and was told by some people on here to go and sort my diet out and i was apparently too young then, anyway I've sorted my diet its not all clean but I'm gaining around 1lb a week and eating 3500 calories a day without fail with 200g+ of protein, My training is good and has been now for 2 years doing a 3 day split training 6 days a week with a day off in-between

My stats -

175lbs
5'10
around 11 - 12%
Age 22 nearly 23

Would like someone experienced with their thoughts.

The cycle i would be doing is Test E and maybe anavar at the end to cut down & obviously PCT etc..., My goal is 190lbs at 8-10%.

Thanks.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

I need to jump on the gear too...... i fkn hate being a mere mortal lol

Hows about you increase your daily calories by 2000 then come back and report the fkn amazing gains you got ??

The cycle i would be doing is Test E and maybe anavar at the end to cut down

Please explain your theory behind this BS...... Cut down what????????

WhyNot's picture

That is true only if you are 2000 cal above your TDEE. Have you ever considered that you might be 1500 cal below your TDEE in your current situation. You can only get so big on the amount of food that you eat, if you want to get bigger you have to proportionately increase your food intake. My recommendation is 500 cal over TDEE.

And as far as Var knocking off the pounds that's all a bunch of nonsense. It's all about diet. Now don't get me wrong it will help accelerate the process but it will not do it for you.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Really!.. is that what you think will happen

You will only gain "a shit load of fat" if your macros are fucked up!... judging from your current protein intake and the sticking point you are at clearly means something is out of whack on that score.

You also did not answer the reason for using var at the end of cycle..... realise you are not talking to some prick that just fell out of a fkn tree here.. so i would appreciate some sensible theoretical answer instead of a "shit load" of attitude.

jimmie's picture

+1 for being patient and listening thus far.

Even at 23 your natural test levels are probably higher than some of the unnatural level of some trt patients. I'd recommend anyone under 24 shouldn't be thinking about it yet, and even then just start researching. personally I think it's just a bad idea to mess with hormones until the body's natural production levels off or even starts dropping, which usually starts around 30ish.

You should be taking in your body weight x2 = protein in grams, which in your case would be 350 grams. I'm no nutrition expert and my diet has always sucked, there are plenty of guys on here who can help you with that. Get your macros up and you will gain naturally. Work with the guys here on your diet for another year, then this time next year when you see yourself getting huge you can start buying and hoarding gear!

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levelup's picture

What do you want to cycle for?

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Catalyst's picture

You don't think you can get to 190lbs natty? Why not? You said you were gaining 1lb per week?

If at 5-10 you can't get to 190lbs, then you might get there with AAS, but you won't hold onto it unless you address why. Is that diet, training or are you just being impatient? (Be honest!)