2nd cycle advice at 46
Hi Guys,
i have posted a few times before during and after my 1st cycle (which ended July 15th). I just finished my PCT and am now looking for advice for my second cycle. I've done some research and wont start again until I hit 20 weeks Post.
My goals will be to gain some lean muscle mass (Id take 7-10 lbs). I gained 17 pounds on my first cycle (Test E and anavar) but dropped 10 of that right away when finished.
I am hovering around 14% BF right now and would like to drop a couple of % before I begin again.
At my age (46) what would be the best compounds to use ? I have no trouble with blood pressure while on cycle, I maintained 120/80 throughout while taking 600mg of test e weekly. My cholesterol stayed right on the board-line as well.
I was thinking of Test E again and some Deca, but at my age the Deca dick stories I have been reading scare me!
I was thinking Tren and Test E? I also have 100 10mg Winstrol tabs on hand I never used.
If this sounds good, what would be a good dosing of each if combined? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Ditch the Deca, take it from somebody that didn't respect it!...Anyways, just to offer an update on my situation:
July 27 was my last Deca shot, a minor one of 200 mgs. after a 15 week cycle with a 400mgs. peak for 4 weeks, along with Proviron. Waited 3 weeks prior to starting PCT of Clomid/Nolva. Did PCT, balls came back , but libido was still shut to shits, several "limp" instances later which even cialis, levitra or viagra wouldn't respond Sometimes (Yep, tried them All and Maybe my mind was fuckin' wit me as well and had "Performance Anxiety" everytime I had to respond to the Wife). after a month of PCT, I stopped it and started taking Bromo suspecting my prolactin was high from the deca. Three weeks later and not until I built up to taking two 2.5 mgs. morning/evening two weeks I'm starting to feel myself starting to comeback again. Also taking some D-Aspartic Acid for a month to see If it helps Natty Test come back to level, just throwing it in there for the shit of it. After I'm done with the DAA I'm planning on starting another PCT of Clomid and whatever Nolva I got left off along with the Bromocriptine. I understand that it may take up to 6 months to recover my libido back to pre-cycle, but at least now I jolt with joy every morning when I wake up for a piss and a woody is present!
To Add to Deca's defense I must say that my shoulder and knees are completely healed and workouts are Great without the Pain, but the price for me was too high to pay, and It really sucked being without any Manhood after the cycle was done, just my two cents, Good Luck on Your Decision!!
Thanks for sharing! With my original test levels being 197 the last thing I need is a Lower libido and a limp dick! My PCT went well after my last cycle so I don't want to go backwards. So now I am flirting with the ideas of adding EQ to the TestE next time. Still researching that...
Test E is what I'm planning, along with Good Old Proviron for My Next Cycle, not until Next Year Though, just want to get back to Myself with PCT and other alternatives for now. Won't stop cycling, at 46 and with frail joints, I need to lube them somehow!!...Don't get Me wrong, Deca was Great while on It, I just perhaps failed in taking some test along with it to avoid All the "dick" problems, I dunno, I will never know until I Try it, but for now, I'll give deca a rest until my joints scream for help again, and will Research for a Smarter Cycle then, In the Meantime, let's keep This thread Alive for Those Souls that are looking for some Honest input, especially The Old Timers Like Ourselves whom Never Give up in keeping Our Fire Alive!!...
Great attitude brother! +1
How about throwing in some Masteron with the Test E instead of Deca??? I see no need to hit the Tren bandwagon as of yet. Seriously.
Not familiar with Masteron. Would it be a good addition to the Test E? I decided to bail out of the Deca idea for now. I was thinking of going back to a Test E and anavar cycle. I plan on frontloading the Test E with 1200mg and doing 600 weekly from there. The Anavar for the last 6 or 7 weeks.
I also have been hearing about using Eq as well. But I am not sure on the dosing yet.
All great responses. Thanks guys. I think I will opt for the Deca and Test E. Which is exactly what I ordered but starting getting concerned about the libido issues I was reading in other posts. However, from what I have researched, using Test with the deca will help keep that in line.
so how about dosage advice? Test E at 500mg a week and Deca at 400mg a week too? SHould they both be run for the same period of time? My 1st cycle I ran the test at 600 for 14 weeks.
AnonI get Tren dick but never get deca dick. Tren doesnt make me any stronger, deca makes me strong as fuk and I blew out both shoulders. Unless you are getting ready to start showing your body off, I would hold off on the tren.
You are probably going to hear this from others but I'm o th opinion that one shouldn't hit tren on his second cycle. It's a pretty harsh compound. Having said that, I recognize that you are a mature adult, and that I'm not giving my two cents to an 18 year old kid that's gotta have tren.
I think a test deca cycle is a good idea. You probably won't notice any difference with the Winny at your current body fat levels. I would suggest saving that for a later cycle after you cut up a little more.
That being said, if you are hell bent on running the tren, I would say absolutely no to running tren e. that shit can really mess with you, you may hit it and the night mares may be unbearable, you are mean as hell and you realize that you are not cut out for it. With that longer ester you will suffer for a couple of weeks after you stop. If you ran ace you quit, it clears your system in a couple of days and you continue on feeling good again Again, I suggest holding off on the tren for a few more cycles. If you do run the tren, I'm a firm believer that masteron is a real nice addition,much better than the Winny.
You may consider test prop and NPP this cycle, get you used to a pinning rotation.
46 as well and just finished a cycle of Deca myself. It made me feel great while on it and healed a minor rotator cuff tear and lubed up my knees nicely. I should have taken caber with it, but instead I opted for proviron, which goes very well with it. Problem was when proviron was discontinued, that's when my libido diminished greatly, and a few instances of "limp"suddenly arose, which of course didn't make the wife happy. just finished PCT and still feel that my libido is not right up to the same levels before the cycle, just started taking bromocriptine at 1.25ed just to control prolactin levels and hopefully get my hornyness back. Test dries up my joints and bloats me, while deca and proviron just gave me an overall feeling of well being.
The synergy of both test and deca should work well, but still I would have some caber in hand just in case to control prolactin levels which is the sole culprit of the dreaded "Deca Dick".
This is what I was thinking.....
Testosterone enanthate 500mg per week, weeks 1-12
Trenbolone enanthate 300mg per week, weeks 1-12
Winstrol 50mg ed weeks, 8-14