posted Sat, 09/21/2013 - 05:09
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It has been brought to my attention that the problem i might be having pct is due to clomid and to use torem instead. either i forgot or wasn't told, but at what dose? Im planning on buying for my next cycle real soon. Ill be using nolva torem and aromasin
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Torem works better than nolva IMO. Everyone I know, myself included, noticed almost within a few days that the testis dropped back down to normal size from clomid/torem protocol
Dosage was 120/90/60/30
What's your issue with clomid?
i agree 100% i actually prefer torem over the nolva also. i even use torem during cruise and blast from time to time to keep my testicals looking normal, it works more effectively than HCG imo and i only use for those special times LOL so i dont look like i have the taters of a small child. plus ive noticed a blast of torem also boosts my libido for the day.
Difficulty eating, head ache, sometimes blurred vision.
Dosage? My gym buddy gets those symptoms. So he went 50/50/25/25/25
Ran an extra week to account for lower dose
100/100/50/50
nolva 20/20/10/10
aromasin eod 12.5/12.5/6.7/6.7
Also very paranoid
Darron614I think people do 120/90/60/30 or maybe just 90/90/60/30
What about for the aromasin n nolva
keep aromasin the same as you would with nolva and clomid, id recommend just 6.25mgs a day, i actually take half in the am and the other half at night. DO NOT take nolva AND torem, its one or the other bud. both together is totally unecessary
So are you suggesting not replacing clomid with anything
nah man, dont replace clomid just nolva with torem. i'll make it easy for you, ive found that aromasin in me personally and several others ive seen metabolizes differently in us than others ... meaning that dosing only once a day doesnt work for us, and theres been studies done which determined aro had a terminal half life in men at 9 hrs if im not mistaken. if i take 3ish mgs in the am and again at night i do much better. my pct for EVERY cycle is as follows ...
toremifene citrate 120/90/60/30
clomid 100/100/50/50
aromasin 6.25mg split ed all 4 weeks
i tried torem at 90/60/60/30 my last pct, and it worked well but i feel it wouldve been more effective and i couldve restarted faster had i ran it at a higher dosage, hence why im doing exactly that next cycle. not onpy that but im almost positive this is carlosdanger's recommendation on dosing as well, and hes my and many others' go to guy for pct questions.
ive only ran 2 cycles to be honest tho and only once with torem, so dont just immediately take my word for it ... do some more research and google torem specifically to find scientific data and info on the compound. chances are you'll be sold on it even before you read all the positive feedback from guys like us whove actually used it, torem is imho the future of pct and in time it will completely replace nolvadex
But my problem is with clomid which is why i was told to use torem instead clomid
oh shit my bad man, as soon as i felt my phone vibrate alertng me i had an email thats immediately what i realized lol, sorry bout that brother. best advice i can give you would be to friend mwagner630. from what ive seen hes very knowledgable in pct but more importantly, he doesnt tolerate clomid well either and uses a torem and gnrh protocol im pretty sure.
i would imagine if you werent taking clomid and instead just torem amd aro youd want to increase the length of pct rather than the dosages of torem, but i dont know for sure, ie 120/120/90/90/60/30. seriously tho, find carlosdanger, mwagner630, and/or dossier (theres #s on the end of his handle but i cant remeber them) then ask those guys, theyll bring far more experience and knowledge to the table than i can. hope this helps brother
Thank you
Darron614Aromasin 12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25
Nolva 40/40/20/20