+ 38 FAN BOYS AND NUT HUGGERS
So what is a fan boy or nut hugger exactly? It's a member who latches onto a particular sources nuts and thinks its his job to defend the source against other members who have concerns. I might be a new mod but I'm a senior member here. I've been here long enough to see the dangers of this shit. For starters, the source doesn't need you to stick up for them. If they are on top of their game, they'll handle the issues that come their way accordingly. If the have a quality customer service they'll reply to customer concerns. When someone places an order and expresses concern for whatever reason , these fan boys come crashing in and attack that member. IT AIN'T HAPPENING!! Everyone has the right to express concerns within reason. If you placed an order and had a good experience, fine, share it. But when some own else comes in and has a different opinion of the source, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO EXPRESS IT JUST LIKE YOU ARE! Nobody will Intimidate another member with concerns about a source. The supplier intro is set up for sources to interact with members. That's where they do their business. LET THEM FUCKIN DO IT!! There is a very real issue called "SELECTIVE SCAMMING". For those who don't know, it's when a source builds his rep, takes care of these fan boys (among others) and scams others out of their hard earned money knowing full well that these nut huggers will back them up and attack the complaining member. So now the guy has not only been waiting months for his pack, but now he doesn't want to inquire about it because he's worried about getting flamed. It's bullshit and I ain't havin it! Last time I'm saying this. EVERYONE has the right to share their experience, good or bad. Anyone who plans on attacking other members in the SI threads will be dealt with accordingly. Consider this your warning. This place is designed for members/customers to share knowledge and experience with each other. To protect each other from scamming. If you love your source so much ask him for a job. Or ask him if you can give him a hand job. I don't care. Just leave the people with issues alone. I know I'm not alone in my thinking. ALL THE MODS WILL BE WATCHING FOR THIS!!
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I would love to set up a fake Source page,..............and lets say,........... have a little fun at their expense.
Don't hold me to it. But I beleive there is one almost two that could be already in motion. Dam your quick
RustyhookerI remember your old antics. It would be damn entertaining for sure!
I know nothing of what you mean............ LOL
I recall seeing a page on how to start a fake Steroid site. The author should remain nameless,.......... for business reasons. Motor oil and all.
RustyhookerCastro gtx! Keeps that v8 hemi screaming.
Lol
Just Google. " How to start a fake steroid company"
I wonder if anyone can spot the fanboy(s) in here......
https://www.eroids.com/discussions/source/muscledevelop.co
AnonLol.... Shits popping in there
Bumping this post for the fanboys to see
RustyhookerFanboys. Here's why it's frowned upon. You don't really know who is who. Here's a sample...
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/fake-and-hijacked-accou...
Thanks to BFG for keeping us safe!
RustyhookerIf a source posts info to scorn someone and a member, word for word repeats the sources post then you in fact ARE a nuthugger.
Let the member and source solve their issues. Someday you WILL be on the dirty end and understand.
AnonIndeed
For the beginning I hated this site because I did not understood rules and when I was doing something I was fucked each time and I had no idea I was wrong. Slowly I understood rules ( or part of them hopefully no more surprises ) and seems better than other sites.
Better than other sites that sites because on other sites sources have REPS or FAN-BOYS how you said ( NUT HUGGERS
that are on a pay list. I do not have resources to hire such persons to track them their post and so on and I think that I must do my job good and not marketing.
Your rules are good because I do not need to take care of any marketing. One thing that is coming like a downside:
for example when a customer think he has a problem, maybe they could be educated to post their problem and ask for opinion instead of aggressively attacking source and saying THIS SOURCE SELLS BUNK etc...until now in 14 years i did not scammed anyone or I had not anyone unhappy so maybe I think I could deserve a normal post. A aggressive post make me think is something personal or a setup and will not make me concentrate on solving the problem. Not sure if I explained good. Also in a thread where someone complain appear people that say "yes he is known crock or scammer or bs like this", those people never come with a fact or with a order number that they were cheated because doesn't exist. Those guys who post negative shit without proofs should not be tagged also like - HATE BOYS for example ? If they have something, a clear proof to post but empty words to stir the shit....
I do not need advantages from any moderators or members. Just honest opinions GOOD or BAD.
Also when is such a negative debate I get emails where lots of people tell me that they support me but they never post. Probably being afraid to be called FAN-BOYS ?
Sure sources exist because of customers so customers should be always right but if is possible with more diplomacy and not making from anything a drama ( or maybe it happens only to me lol )
Your system is clearly not perfect, but for the moment is the best system out-there. Hope you keep it balanced and improving it.
I know that there is no perfect system also if you look to the grades of ranking the differences are so small that is clearly that sources in top are good. Absolutely not saying number 1 should be really number 1 and number 10 is worst than number 5.
When I first started I hung out in the SI's. One in particular. If memory serves me Nitti and I bumped heads there (yeah he won lol). Seriously though Nitti's a decent dude. I'm confident the other mods would've banned me but Nitti and I worked it out via pm. I still pop in the same SI from time to time usually when I'm getting ready to order so I can gauge the atmosphere. Like happy people, packages landing on time, and general talk. The SI's though we're getting out of hand plus I was becoming more serious about the cycles. Back then I was just trt trying to find out more about what I was taking and stumbled on to this place. So now I hang out in general population mostly during my cycles and then I drop off the planet for a couple months and start it all over again.....
AnonI think I stay away from the SI's unless it's for reading from now on.
There's too much good that can be done back here without having to get hammered on for speaking up about a source, or even in defense of someone who is speaking up about a source and getting ramrodded over it.
Glad to see you guys are spotting it. In fact,'if I'm not mistaken I can think of a few that have been bounced just recently! Can't begin to tell you the satisfaction that brings me
Keep up the good work, gentlemen!
Apparently this needs a bump
Apparently THEY don't know that WE know who THEY are
I think that removing the ability to up or down vote from the review pages would be better. This will discourage fan boys from flaming someone for an honest yet negative review. I'm open to hearing other logic - ie. the reason for the ability to up or down vote on the review pages.
You should add that in the ideas section. I was roaming a review page for a src(that I've never used) and I noticed that everyone tht left a review got at least one up vote and some had two or three. I though that was weird.
I dunno... how about this - this is a steroid review site
Everything else on this site is secondary so upvoting (or downvoting) for accurate reviews (which is OUR primary purpose) seems to make sense to me...
That's precisely my point. Fan boys... I fucking hate even writing that term, they boil my blood, will down vote a negative albeit accurate review.
yeah bro but there are plenty of quality members to leave their mark and those that don't stick around as part of the community and get to know who is who... well, thats on them. and as roid has stated THIS is why we have MODS. Not a perfect system but the system has evolved and continues to do so. Rating sources is what eroids is al about
I think you're missing my point bro. Rating sources as you mentioned is great. I'm all for that. I'm talking about when someone rates a source, the member who wrote the review is now subject to an up or down vote based on their review. That's what I think should be eliminated: the voting ability of the actual review.
Well they can't downvote reviews just because they don't like it. They get bitch slapped for that. It's in the discussion pages where the problem is
They get bitch slapped if they get caught. Why even allow that possibility? In the discussion pages these fucks can run wild without recourse from other members except of course from the enforcers/mods because there's no voting on these pages. And this makes your job much harder. Frankly, if a fan fuck ever started shit with me, I wouldn't just go away with my tail between my legs, I'd return fire and not just because there's no up or down voting on these pages.
I agree. Go to the website request and ideas section of the forum and post your proposal to BFG.
Sorry nitti I should have read down a little bit and I would have saw you already mentioned that. You damn mods always take the good ideas lol.
But the review shenanigans are still done. It's a review page not a review of reviews page. Upvoting and downvoting is not necessary for a review. Are we patting people on the back now for sharing their experience? No ones karma should be affected by anyone for an honest review. Unless a mod flags the review for a rules violation, then I'm fine with a deduction. This leaves it at the discretion of 5 proven assets to the community.
couldn't down and upvote just be allowed in the review page, and take it out of the discussion and forums. All forums and discussions are, are just options anyway. We could have a like or dislike in them that would not take or add to peoples karma. If people want to get worshiped or praised in the discussion and the forums they can just recieve a like or dislike or a BJ but it would seem to me a way to keep the fan boys away. just my two cents.
That's a question for the big guy. The upvoting/downvoting in the reviews is Supposed to be for good or bad (informative either way) reviews. Not when I write a bad review and the fan boys neg it.
BigBmajMods seem to have their own set of fanboys as well. It was hard for me to like MODs at first because I have such trouble with authority. I found myself wanting to be such a dick just because. But then I realized y'all weren't so bad after all. It is nice to see people argue and hold their ground with you guys once in awhile tho.
That is an impressive admission! I think I am not sure but I was one of the first people to start backing the mods openly. I had nothing to gain because it is actually a bad move if you want to be popular. But I quickly assessed that this place would go to shit without them. I am a huge fan of discipline to such an extent that would challenge anyone to prove where greatness has been achieved without it.
I remember i the beginning when I first joined, I was tempted to take the side of a source thinking the mod was being a little extra abusive in his use of power. Basically being a dick above what was needed to correct a situation. I am glad my wits came to me quickly before letting my ass hang out and realizing I don't know the behind the scenes story. Sure as shit flows through a sewer, I would have made an ass out of myself when all of the facts came out.
So I decided from then on that my ignorance would not lead me into humiliation at least on this issue lol. I will say that I think we have the best mods anywhere. I don't believe all authority should be followed or not questioned on those that have never had the facts prove them wrong. That is the one thing that I have not seen yet here is someone use the facts to prove the unjust use of power from the mods.
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Lol... not too many for me brother, nobody wants to hang out with a grumpy old drill SGT lmao!..... what i will say is my followers seem to be the hardcore crowd that keep pumping results out month after month.
I have been told and impressed upon that eroids is NOT a bodybuilding site... thats a fair comment which i do accept but!.... it seems my protocols are the ones that most seem to follow thesedays..... Hmmmmm evolution or just a more receptive crowd of guys.. who knows??.... or maybe they are just fking sick of failure... only time will tell bro.
One thing is for sure ..... i have been reading that a few think eroids is depreciatting!!... let me tell everyone here and now that statement is pure BS.... eroids is constantly evolving for the better imo... new things always need to be ironed out thats also a fact, but admin always gets there in the end... and for the ones that disagree with me.. hear this!
IF NONE OF US PUSHED THE BOUNDARIES, THE REST OF US WOULD NEVER EVEN KNOW WHAT A BOUNDARY WAS
You see this is where you are totally wrong. I am a full on Viking Fan boy. I'm not a competitive bodybuilder, but totally worship the ground that you walk on. Just because when I have questions, I hit you up and I gain 70 lbs of muscle in the first week. You are the baddest of the baddest and even though you are older than my great great great grandfather ,(Holy shit you are old) you still look like a superhero.
As long as Eroids has the Vike, it will never depreciate. In fact the only depreciation that I've ever seen was when they took you off the streets and made you a mod. Sure the mod-ifications improved but they made you so damn busy that you don't have time to sit in the trenches and tell me how to properly kill a hooker and get big while I'm doing it.
Eroids may not be a bodybuilding site but I do believe the majority of members are bodybuilders. I do like the fact that eroids is not strictly a bodybuilding site because that gives eroids little bit broader subject range that keeps shit interesting and also draws a more diverse crowd. I guess the term bodybuilder is maybe a little too broad and outdated because all of us are trying to build a better body relative to whatever our goals may be no matter how different they may be
Very true it is mostly bodybuilders. The only issue I have with this concept is when lets say a fighter comes in and is running a cycle with no test. Lets say he's doing short blasts of winny and halo! That is quite common for them and they will get bashed and beat down in here if they say it out loud. In fact most fighters won't use test at all. And they'll run oral only cycles. They aren't trying to get big. Some cases they are going harder in training. Sometimes they are trying to improve their endurance. Sometimes just flat out power! But the point remains. That guy can't post about his cycle confidently without someone talking shit. I'm glad that most ppl know my background and send these guys my way so I can help them in private. But it shouldn't have to be that way.
RustyhookerThis is why real VETS push for stats, priors and goals. To separate the atheletes into the proper catagory and get them tge best help possible. Something lacking in just karma number attached to the name is experience.
Not long ago the newbs flamed a dude for wanting low dose cycle. He wanted simple recovery values and not beef. Custom wrote a simple low dose cycle and adjusted ai/pct.
This is so true for those that fight. What is needed if one uses aas, is a complete 180 degree difference to a bodybuilder's protocol.A fighters worse nightmare ever is getting gassed! Broken bones no problem it goes with the game, cuts same thing. Getting gassed like what happen when Fernando Vargas did the wrong cycle even though it was winstrol it didn't help him. With increased mass you use more oxygen to support it less endurance. EPO would be a far better choice for the fighter and as far as anabolic/androgenic the options are limited imo.
I think you made a great point and one that needs reminding often that this is more than just for bodybuilding. I still think that aas usage for fighters is still in its infantile stage as far as knowing for sure the best combos. But one thing for sure is no one should get bashed because there regimen looks whacked or different more information should be obtained before rushing to judgements.
I'm aware of that too brother and I've directed people to you. I understand your frustration. Most people around here are trying to gain a pound and the fighters/wrestlers/runners/cyclist (weight restricted athletes) are trying to lose a pound and increase performance. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE STRENGTH TO WEIGHT RATIO BABY!! Lol
Exactly my point bro.... growth = build = bigger body = body building = body builder..... finally someone understands were im coming from.. YIPPEE!.... we are all bodybuilders to a certain degree or level, whatever you wanna call it but the fact remains we are all here to grow or develop so that to me equals bodybuilding.
Ill go with that. It's fair. But as I said above, if a guy posts a cycle that looks like this
Weeks 1-4. Bold acetate 100mg Ed
Weeks 1-2 Winny 50mg Ed
Weeks 2-4 Halo 30mg Ed
What kind of reception will he get? Lol. Exactly.
LOL... yes he w.ould take some flames from certain guys that roam the steroid cycles section with the old hat attitude of "wheres the test"... and why is it not just 500mg WK..... lmaoooo.
My parameter of DEVELOPMENT and GROWTH stand even with this strange looking stack because that stack would make the user rock hard and tight for a weight class.
Good job you are here for guys like this because i wouldnt have a clue.
Exactly!
Quit dogging the mods all the time BigB. The only reason they are so popular is because they are so badass. If you were even half as badass as the mods are you'd have more fanboys than you could count. They are just doing their jobs. So check yourself before you wreck yourself!
Love you Nitti and Noid!!!!!!
BigBmajI tried dogging you once but I almost got lynched. You are the man with all the fans.
I miss your sense of humor these days. Haven't seen much of it.
Oh come on bro, it wasn't that bad.
Brother, I haven't seen my sense of humor for a while either. I'll blame it on the Tren.
BigBmajPeople say that the juice takes away my sense of humor too.
just so you know when a member plays fan boy on me when im trying to handle shit ill tell them to back the fuck off, that I can handle my own shit and dont need back up. its what sources should do when someone posts and the fanboys start in, a GOOD source would say hey boys I can handle this by myself. but to tell you the truth ive yet to see it!
Argue and hold their ground? It's nice to see? If they're arguing then they must have broken a rule. There would be no other reason to defend themselves. Yeah, it's cute when they do that. And I'm so glad you decided not to "Be a dick just because". That would have prompted me to be a dick just because and well, I always win!
BigBmajThat's why I didn't go for it. It was only a situation that I would loose. Plus you guys are pretty cool and I really had no ground to stand on.
I don't know it's some major character flaw I have, authority freaks me out. I never really won against the cops either but I sure tried. I think my shink said it was authority defiance disorder. Don't worry I'm taking my pills for it. Haven't spit at a cop in over three weeks now.
I'm not taking about rule violation arguing. I'm taking about all the "yes men" I see.
It's just an observation - you guys have lots of fans. But it's cool because it pretty much looks like you earned them.
I better quit before I start sounding like a sac swinger.