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Ok so a few weeks ago I posted my first cycle and ask for advice. Man I got blasted! I was told I was using to many compounds for a newbie, that I was probably gonna be shut down for life, and that my cycle pretty much sucked. I did however get some positive constructive advice. Thanks to my man roid noid. I'm still pretty new to this site and to chemical enhancement. What I am not new to is a clean diet and kick ass training. I have been in exemplary shape my entire life. A couple of guys told me I was crazy for using winny cause it was a BF% compound ect. I felt like everyone thought I just decided to start lifting then a month later juice. I'm in my mid 30's and Ive never done it cause I've never needed to. I've always been bigger, stronger, and faster than guys my age and size. After reading the feedback I got freaked out a little. I will admitt I DID NOT do the research I should have done before I cycled. I read about the specific compounds I was going to use and not much else. So within hours of posting I was contacting my family Dr. He is also an ex-football player like myself but also an avid power lifter. He brow beat me pretty good for not talking to him before I jump into it. After that he eased my mind. I was no where near shutting down for life or having any unbearable side affects. He did blood work and told me for what I had used and the amount of time I used them I was looking good. Also my gains have been amazing. I am very pleased I decided to cycle. I also have piece of mind now that doc is in the loop. I guess my point is you can post what your using, how long your using it, your stats, training exp. and so on and so on. Whatever advice you receive is from someone that has been there and done that (hopefully). They for the most part mean well BUT they are telling you what happened to them or what researching a certain compound or subject taught them. No one has any idea exactly how anything will work with or react to your unique genetic make up. Because everybody's body is indeed different. Nothing can substitute for first hand medical advice and testing from a doc you believe in and trust. I remember one dude posting "go do some research and come back and tell us what you learned. That will make the old timers respect you and know you care about what you put in your body." Thats paraphrased. My Dr. Has helped plan out PCT and also my next cycle. I have become very interested in AAS. I have been doing tons of reading and researching. It has become one of my main interest. But I will never substitute anything I read or something another AAS user says for an M.D.'s opinion. My second cycle will include tren ace. I know someone as new as me gets blasted around here for using that compound but again no ones knows how a persons body will respond to anything. My advice to anyone thinking of using AAS. Don't base decisions about using things that effect the chemical make up of your body on message boards. Or what a substance did to so and so. Seek advice from a trained medical professional. Have blood labs done. Keep your Dr. In the know of changes to your body. If you don't have health insurance or can't afford to go to the Dr. Then why in hell are you spending money on AAS in the first place. Unless of course your the guy that drives the Porsce ans lives in his moms basement.

Greg's picture

I applaud the doctor part.

Confused about, "He browbeat me pretty good for not talking to him before I jump into it."

Is he recommending cycle dosage? Using Tren? Or is he Just trying to prevent a train wreck because you are not following his advice?

I get that we are all different. But what I think what you are missing is that this is a long distance run, not a sprint.

manbearpig's picture

So, did your doc advise you to use tren on your second cycle? Lmao

manbearpig's picture

so you dont listen to the experienced people on forums. you don't listen to your doctor.... do you think that everyone else is wrong? or that you can write your own rules based on your own experience (or lack of)?

shawn0712's picture

I agree everyone's body is different. And it's awesome you have a doctor you can work that tightly with. The only thing I think that might be negative about jumping into Tren on your second cycle is do you really need it? I see a lot of guys jumping straight into higher milligram doses and more powerful steroids when their gains were great with less. I'm just saying the more you use, the more you'll likely need to achieve those great results on your next cycle. Just food for thought

swole47's picture

If you didn't want to hear what people had to say then you shouldn't have included anything about the tren. You really thought that every single person here would say ''hope it works out. Let us know'' and give you positive reinforcement? Running tren your second cycle is stupid, you truly have no reason to do it except that it's strong, and you want to experience that. Maybe you're planning on competing one day. It seems to me that the risk is so much greater than the reward here. The title is Everybodys Body is Different. So what if it turns out you have an absolutely horrible reaction to tren?

The community here at eroids is comprised of people, not robots. People have opinions, and most will express them here.

And by the way good luck on your cycle if you are going to run it. I truly do wish you the best of health, but I thought that since you brought up running tren for your second cycle that it may have been up for discussion, or somebody here might have been able to sway your decision.

swole47's picture

"My Dr. Has helped plan out PCT and also my next cycle." Probably the coolest thing I've ever heard.

I'm glad you seem to be healthy and everything worked out alright. One thing I gotta say is that if your gains have been so amazing from that cycle, then why are you already wanting to add tren? If you want to experiment with new compounds why not try something a little more mild.

It's hard to believe that you're in your mid 30's and all of a sudden wanting to try the most intense AAS on the planet. Midlife crisis maybe? And does that mean that your doctor is helping you plan out a cycle with tren? For your second cycle ever? That seems pretty crazy.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

sick of seeing this "lady var" rubbish thrown about!...... let me make it crystal clear here and now to everyone.....

OXANDROLONE aka ANAVAR... is just that!.... there is no different formula that suddenly makes it "lady var"..... anavar is usually sold in 10mg tabs.. sometimes 50mg.... then when you know muta as good as io do you can get 100s specially made.... thats "MAN VAR" lmfaooo

Wont be long before i see somebody with "lady tren" or "lady A/bombs"....... i roll about in fits of fkn loud laughter...... VAR is 5 times more anabolic than TEST.. thats why women get such great results from it even at a "lady dose" of 5 or 10mg .............................. FYI ONLY.

Darktide's picture

That is a good point especially for people who are coming here now with all these new terminologies. My wife said when she saw that one day it would be simpler to say low dose and high dose oxandrolone to avoid confusion.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Somebody had to say it bro it might as well be me... we have a large female base now and i notice a lot of activity in the ladies forum about either running var already or wanting to start a cycle..... i dont want them being confused into thinking they are getting something a little bit weaker when "lady var" is mentioned..... even what i would class as a minute dose of 10mg WILL bring on virilisation effects without a doubt.... and for muscle gain properly a dose of something like what suze would useof 40/60mg ED will really let the ladies know about the power of AAS.... if you know what i mean (cough) downstairs department will look like a strangers lol

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Go for it... thats what i like to hear, somebody who is not afraid to use a compound properly.... you just wait and see the difference that happens with that 30mg.... i bet the fisrt time you see veins bursting out your lower abdomen you go "shit" this is what i wanted.... i remember the first ever cycle suze did which was just var... we were on holiday and she was laid in the sun and said to me "holy shit look at this" she was staring at her abdomen with big veins popping like they were gonna burst lol..... she loved it and thats when she made her mind up to go hardcore and take it to the extreme like you see today.... makes me giggle when i look at some of the guys cycles in here now... jesus!.. if they only knew what type of stacks she was running these days they would run and hide lmaooo

ANBRO's picture
See now you got me all excited about starting my run! I already have veins in my upper body.... combined with the diet I've been hitting for the last three weeks and the HGH.. I can't freaking wait! When I see those little veinies coming through the abdomen area and I'm sure that won't talk long, cause the belly is good and tight now.. you will be the first to hear my praises..
VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Good stuff... just roll with it and dont let your head start talkin shit to you... a lot of people panic for no reason when jumping on a cycle because they start "listenening " to their bodies to deeply and start to imagine bad things are going on.. lol when really its just the body adapting to the compounds we slam into it...... if my memory serves me right i think you have used var before.. right?..... get excited when you veins on your shins and places like the gastroc were they snake about like they are alive lol.... fk me im gettin excited here just thinking about it.... i like to be fully veined up even when relaxed ... thats the ultimate sign of conditioning imo.

ANBRO's picture
*Yes sir.. second run! First one was just a let's see what this is all about.. This one's a let's get this phucking shit ON! I know what to expect, have the diet on point.. every two hours... It's funny you go from forcing yourself to eat to your body.. sayin hey it's time to eat.. and it dead on time. I have two things of water in front of me right now.. I got the tea today and I will be putting those in some water tonight.. I can't wait.. you are right about the veins... The first time I saw mine was doing some squats and I knew I was finally getting somewhere..
VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

lol... i can mentally picture whats in front of you... just the same in front of me right now lol.... yep body screams like a new baby for feeding every couple of hours.... i can tell the time with my guy with the little pains it sends me when its grub time... you know you are in control and winning the game when eating comes easy.

When out and about we have the six meal seperated cooler bags... they are fabntastic they prob sell them near you but if not i can give a link so you have a look .... they make it easier than a million tupperware boxes thrown in the back seat lol

http://www.extremenutrition.co.uk/gb/16-six-pack-bags