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+ 6 steroid addiction and overdose. this is really important to me please help.
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I have a crazy addictive personality and been on a life long strugle with addiction to drugs and booze. Im clean and sober for a year now (praise god), but id like to know if anyone know of any info about or if its possible to get addicted to or overdose on anabolics. Last thing i need is another trip to rehab the nut house or even worse that final trip 6 ft under. Im a pure novice about this if u can please help keep me from doing something stupid cuz i wasnt educated. Thanks guys and gals.
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i would say i am addicted to looking strong and vascular. does this make me an addict? maybe.
and to "OD" on gear would be extremely unlikely. i'm sure if you abuse orals for extended periods of time it may take a toll on your body later on down the road and destroy your liver. also, i suspect extended gear usage at irresponsible dosages may correlate to heart conditions later in life as well, but as far as "over dosing" there hasn't been any documented cases i have come across.
but look at Arnold, Lou Ferigno, Sly Stallone... all have been using gear for at least the last 4 decades, and probably have never come off either, and they are all still alive and kicking. so take that for what its worth.
Who would down vote this? This is a great thread!
who gives a toss its a year old
cbrant10I would say you are definitely not alone with the addiction piece. For us addicts or alcoholics we like the mind altering effects these drugs give us. So in essence yes you can become addicted because it changes how ou feel especially when your getting massive pumps in the gym. Keep up the good work man. I had 11 months and slipped up but I am back on the right path now. I would say with anything we do we need to do in moderation. As for the OD piece you can definitely hurt your body if you don't run a cycle properly. Good luck brother!
Thanks for the kind word brant ur right when i finished my first cycle all i could think about for a few weeks was getting more and more gear. I so glad my next cycle has taken forever to get here cuz it gave me time to get on here and get some much needed info. Thanks to all my eroid fam for kickin my ass and setting me straight. Sorry to hear u slipped i did many times before i got it really undercontroll but no worries and dont be hard on ur self for it. Relaps is a part of recovery. Glad to hear ur back on track and going strong. keep it up bro
Most def addictive psychologically. When you're off you want to be back on. When you're on you don't want to stop. I'm an alcoholic and have had my issues with many other substances and have been close to od's. This is becoming one of my favorite addictions. No hangovers and looking and feeling better than ever.
I think in a way it is physically addictive. I mean you shut yourself down then stop adding exogenous hormones to your body and your brain is like WTF I need that shit!! Until you add more drugs to restart the natural process. Sounds like detox to me, sort of.
Can you OD? I dunno. I'd think probably. I mean what happens if you eat 1000 A bombs? Or shoot 3 grams of tren ED for a week? I dunno, I wouldn't do it. So maybe, but I think it'd be hard to do.
Def addictive psychologically. I too have an addictive personality. Opiates were my drug of choice. I found myself never wanting to stop my cycle and I hated pct but I got through it. It's a lot easier to control than our other vices. You have to know and remember if you proceed, the desire to continue a cycle after the weeks have ended, it's the addiction side of you talking. Don't justify it in your head, don't play games with yourself. I did those things and it sucked. Once I got my head straight everything came together. +1 for the honest post and the cornhole that neg'd you.
Lmao good lookin out bro and i exactly the same way but i was hooked on booze weed and coke/crack. Im good now i can def controll my urges and my addictions but only through the grace of god can i do it i take my eyes of the lord for a sec and i quickly find myself lookin down the wrong avenues. Weight gainer and the bible are my new addictions and all in all those are ok in my book. Also by weight gainers i mean supplement from gnc or dsn like protien shakes and dymatize mass gainer. Lol i made strawberry panckes out of my mass gainer the other day just had to add a bit of yeast and baking powder for stability but they turned out pretty good. Can i get flamed for mentioning gnc or discount sport nutrition. I hope not if so someone let me know ill take it out. Thabks for the post bro god bless and keep fightin the good fight my friend.
Oh yeah ive been in there and posting i started this like 5 mins before i found that paticular forum but i figured id leave it here more places for addicts to openly discuss hard times without fear of hate and reprisal the better i think. Thanks for the complement bro. Keep fighting the good fight and as always im here for anyone who need an ear to vent into a shoulder to cry on or just needs hand pickin them selfes up. We all fall short of the grace of god. Its how well we pick are selves up and carry on in the face of adversity determines a mans (or womans) true grit and character. Plus 1 my friend
BigBmajI think juice addiction is much easier to manage then say and opiate or cocaine addiction. The biggest problem I have ever had in the past was with doing PCT and loosing gains. I noticed depression and anxiety soon followed. I become very obsessive about training and juice. Which makes bodybuilding less fun.
Its important to set a cycle and stick with a protocol rather than adding to it and running way longer than you should. And be aware that you will have some ups and downs along the way. Don't let them flip you out.
Good post my friend. Im actually blessed in this area because im a hard gainer i so used to loosing gains if i stop training it doesnt really bother me. That and ive found if i jump my diet up a few thousand cals and keep working out while on my off cycle i can maintain my weight. You might try this see if it works and uping the diet is actually quite easy its a quick trip to any nutrition center. Pick up some 2k cal per serving mass gainer and gulp it down if u dont mind drinkin 32 oz of flavored pancake batter lol its not that bad just add extra water after the milk. Thanks for the reply and god bless brother
Buildbigger86could not agree with you more. You are 150% correct on that my friend
The psychological addition to steroids is very easy get. Like you I have a very addictive personality and in some ways it has been good for me and in other ways not so much. I'm an alcoholic and luckily realized this and have made the conscious decision to not drink. I'm also addicted to my job and that drives me to work harder and try to be the best at what I do. I already have to battle the psychological addiction to steroids and I'm fairly new to the game. I find myself constantly browsing various sources products and saving money solely for buying more gear. This may not sound like much to some of you on here, but I know how I am and know what this could potentially lead to. Just like when I was drinking I would ignore the possible consequences of my actions. It's hard to keep yourself in check with the addictive mentality, so be very careful.
Couldnt have said it better my self. Plus 1 bro. I had the same mindset i was searching for cheap gear and big stacks untill all my brothers here kicked my ass a bit and set me straight. Now pct is priority 1(big thanks on that one to rustyhooker) then diet and exercise and lastly now is gear. Ive been big before with out the gear so i know i can do it i just had to get out of my head about it and my eroid fam has been invaluable in helpjng me with that. Now that im older i know gear is good to help my body preform like i was 17 again. But it a double edge sword doing 17 yr old thing to a 30 yr old frame will lead to injury. Example at the end my first cycle i hurt my back because my muscles got so strong so fast the skelleton couldnt keep up and i dislocated a rib ive been down for 8 weeks now and all because i didnt educate myself first. Thanks again for the reply and god bless my friend
Physically - no.
Psychologically - yes. Particularly if you have an "addictive mentality", can be tempting to use too much, too long etc.
You sound like you've turned your life around big time, well done.
Thanks bro but honeslty i didnt do anything it was all the good lord who did it i just followed the path he laid before me instead of bushwacking it alone. Anyone whos gone hiking know what i mean by that.
Buildbigger86Okay this really pisses me off now... Who on this forum post downvoted newuser?? Like seriously what the fuck... How is the this topic and post by him in anyway worthy of a downvote. What is wrong with you( who ever down voted him on this). Who ever did should be ashamed of themselves because here we have a member to our community reach out to us for advice as well as the fact that he is sharing some very personal with us a well.
Whoever you are, you are a true piece of fuckin shit for doing that.
THANK U BB THANK U. I was bummed for a half sec but stayed positive and listened to my new fam and not let that get to me plus i have to remember i often come off the wrong way or just dont explain myself rite in text so all in all no biggie. Im not here for karma point im here for an education. Educate you guys have god bless all of ypu for you help and kindness. Believe me it wont be forgotten.
Buildbigger86That is the best possible attitude you can have my friend. plus 1
BigBmajIt could have been an accident. I noticed that happens easily on my phone. I don't know tho some people are just dicks.
I do too i have to extremely zoom in to key some things on my phone. Thanks for going to bat for me bro.
A lot of guys are taking this in a way I don't believe you intended it to be taken. I'll friend request you. Feel free to send me a pm about this
I sent u a friend request bro but didnt see the pm link on ur page. Im set up for pm and email contact fell free to hit me up anytime.
Thanks greeen your right but its sort of my fault the way i typed it up i never come off the right way in text. And id be happy to chat it up with u ill shoot u that pm in just a sec.
Psychologically addicting
Thats true and i can see that already. I posted some where when i was on my cycle id get antsie and couldnt sit still when i got close to my injection day i often found my self pinning early and even got on a rotation at 1 point started mon fri then it moved to sun thurs then sat wed so on and so on. I also found my self wanting to order a bunch of extra gear so i could pin more often and get better gains but ive learned on here first and for most more def isnt better.
carguy78The human mind is the most powerful part of the body!! Keep your eye on the prize and stay focused on what your goals are and you will be fine!! Once you truly dedicate yourself to your training you will find it easier to stay the course.. Stay clean and sober because your the only person that can control that .. Congrats for admitting you had a problem and took control of the situation and took control of your life.
So so true and thanks for the complement it was the hardest thing i ever did not the quitting part dont get me wrong it was tough and still is sometimes but the biggest hurdle was admitting i had a problem in the first place.
I respect your honesty and willingness to put it all out there. I too had issues with substance abuse so I get where your coming from. I will friend request you. Pm me and I will try to help answer your questions.
Just accepted you thanks for the help bro and keep fighting the good fight.
Wow i got a down vote for askin questions about how to be safe? That doesnt seem right i guess who ever u are u didnt understand my post. Thanks any thou and god bless
I gave u a +1 just because some douche down voted. Now I'm not saying you shouldn't get flamed a little bit, but not downvoted this early in the game. Read the forums and the rules. Dudes here want to see you ask well informed questions after researching to show you are willing to put some effort into this and not be spoon fed.
Thanks bro i do appreciate it. I think who ever it was just misunderstood what i was trying to ask. But yes iam reading alot and while my questions may seem ill informed its because im still learning and i feel that in life there are no stupid questions especially with this. I freely admit i was a fucking idiot doing a cycle without better education. That being said im gonna run a pct cycle asap and def wont run another active cycle till i feel fully informed. And for everyone out there im asking questions more than reading right now because most of what i read doesnt make sense to me kinda like reading a trig book when u only know basic math. I cant learn if the language doesnt make sence. Thanks to all for the help. Extra thanks to u odin.
Your on the right track bro and you will catch on to the intricacies of cycling. Once you understand what something does and its potential side effects you can start putting that knowledge in your toolbox. For now it is important to research AI's and PCT. These are invaluable to understand. I am more concerned about having quality AI and other ancillaries to combat sides than I am about getting quality gear. My reason for saying this is because if u get bunk or underdosed ancillaries your more likely to develop gyno from estrogen or prolactin which can be irreversible and embarrassing. Not saying that buying quality gear isn't important, but I feel like people try to skimp and save a buck on ancillaries which can be a fatal flaw.
Great post bro probably the best info ive gotten so far out side of rusty. Ill deffinately start investing in pct ancillaries and ai's with less of a focus on gear. I def dont want gyno or deca dick and u the first ive heard from about being irreversable ill most def be more careful and get a proper education before starting another cycle no matter how long it takes.
Ive been clean now for almost six years. I totally understand your anxious about aas . Education about there effects and researching by talking to others about there experience is invalueable. Just know what your doing before you do it and be aware of sides and how to combat them. There are lots of other's on here to give you help. Sometimes it comes in the form of harsh criticism but most only want to help. Good luck bro and read....read....read....
Thanks bro thats why im here to learn how to be safe. Ever since i got on the forums i cant put my phone done. I think im getting addicted to eroids lol. Thats a bad joke but funny none the less. And i love critisism its the only way to improve upon ones self. Good post man.
Wait until your mentally capable of controlling any situation that can be addictive. Congrats on the 1 yr man! I am 3 1/2 years sober and it took bout 2 yrs before I mentally understood that I could overcome anything and matured enough to get addicted to other things. And as far as overdose on aas I have not heard of deaths but heard of horrible sides from too high of doses without the correct precautions.
Thanks bro same to you i def have my drug and alcohol issues under controll this is to find out if u can develope chemical dependancy from aas. Example after u end a cycle will aas gear make u feen of go thru withdraws. Addicts are always addicts and ur 100% rite about keeping thing under controll. Thats why ill never drink again cuz i know if i do ill be a full blown alccy again within weeks.
Thanks for the reply good post bro
no, there is no physical dependence like there is with alcohol, benzos, or dope for example. BUT you and i both know theres no much more to addiction than gettng physically sick without it. in 6 days i'll have been completely clean for 4 years now, and started AAS last october ... i understand what you're asking my friend, and in MY OWN experience, gear and everything about it has ABSOLUTELY become addictive for me. the getting, the using, the finding ways and means to get more. just because im still paying all my bills on tims, never missing work, taking care of my family, and healthier than ever doesnt mean i dont have a problem with this shit.
i too am addicted as fuck to learning everything there is to know about gear, ive been on this site and many others damn near every single day for the past 8 months, sometimes for hours on end, obsessively researchng and learning, watching source threads, readng reviews, savng $ to stockpile/hoard gear, and planning next cycles when i havent even started pct yet!
im not sayng that every addict or alcoholic (same things imho, just a different word for it and drug of choice) can and will become as obsessive and addicted to the AAS lifestyle as i have, but that it is a very real possibility. tread very very carefully brother, this is a very slippery slope and easy to get caught up in ... by that i mean it could become very difficult to take the appropriate time off cycle, especially if you have everything you need for your next cycle already on hand. being on gives us that alpha male feeling, one of power and control, and thats something THIS addoct doesnt like to give up so easy.
i sabotage myself now by not keepng any extra test or havng that ready for my next cycle - i gather everythng else slowly but surely as my income permits, but will not order test until im almost ready to start (without test everythng else is essentially useless and i cant do shit with it) its too tempting otherwise and i end up jumpng back on long before i should. i am open with my wife about what i order and how much $ im spending so theres no secrets or shady shit goin on between us financially, and i also tell her and my closest friends about my cycle plans (start and finish dates, and time off, etc) that way i stay accountable and cant be sneaky about it.
its not all doom and gloom though man, just stay accountable and honest about your use with a select few. they'll help keep you on track and away from the deep end. i wish you nothin but the best brother, if you need any help or have any questions feel free to pm me.
There is no physical dependency to aas. The only withdrawals you will get is mental. This is of course assuming your hormones are under control. Keep at it bud!
BirmonThe stigma you're buying into couldn't be further from the truth. If you actually believe you might "overdose" or become "addicted", you are not ready to use aas and I would suggest you do more research.
I'm assuming by addicting you're talking about selling all your stuff to score a vial or leaving your kids in the car for a few hours why you walk into a house in a shady neighborhood and shoot up some gear.
hell naw
Deffinately hell naw i think he misunderstood what i was asking. thanks jc
All i read is more isnt better. By over dose i mean like with asprin u overdose at 2000 to 4000 mg depending on ur body are any aas gear the same way. And by addictive i mean when you end a cycle does gear give u feens and withdraws.
I was never an addict like that even on crak coke weed or booze u couldnt tell i had a drug problem when i was using i never stole or left my fam i was always around for my kid i just let my parents and wife pay for everything so my check could go to my habbits.
Good post though bro thanks
looks like you shouldnt be using steroids if you dont know the slightest thing about them which it looks like you dont have a clue
That why im here bro gotta learn somehow. And i prefer not to do it the hard way.