posted Sun, 05/26/2013 - 07:25
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Is it normal to have killer pip first cycle?
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I got my gear from a well know. Source who is no longer on here. However the pip is really bad. My first shot was great, hardly any pip, but these last two have killed me. My shoulder and my ass cheek have both swelled up and became extremely sore. Is this normal for virgin muscles or is it the gear. By the way I've only been shooting 250 mg of test e per shot
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AnonGood news, I definitely don't think I'mergic to the oil. Did my right ass cheek last night and thankfully I am 100% pip free today so hopefully my muscles are starting to get used to the injections
RustyhookerAwesome!!
AnonLooks like I spoke a little too soon bro. It was all good from the time I woke up until I went to the gym. After the gym my injection site started hurting bad. I guess the muscle contractions and blood flow increase the pip? Is this normal?
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Out of all those steps the one the helped me the best to avoid PIP 99% of the time is to dilute with grapeseed oil. Amazing how well that works.
Not looking for a specific source here, but where does one find grape seed oil that is pure enough for this purpose?
AnonI definitely have a problem not moving the needle around. In fact my shot this morning with my left hand I bent the needle a little bit. However I do all of the other steps u do except add the gso
swelling is never normal. id get it checked out.
a few tips that helped me, warm gear in syringe with heating pad, use fresh pin/ not the one you draw with(this should be a given), hold pin in for 5-10 seconds after shot, message after. Try to do your shots first thing in morning so your moving after and not sitting long periods if its a glute shot. I added some grape seed oil if it was a single type, sometime if you put two types together it helps with PIP, depends on how many Ml you are doing for that shot.. You may already know or have heard all these, just throwing them out there to help.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/getting-to-know-pip
RomanbrandThanks for that, very interesting tid bit.
Try warming the oil in the syringe with warm water before injecting.
StevebIf his PIP is as bad as he is saying warming the oil wont help.
If your first shot went well then the gear is probably fine, I saw the brand your using in the gear pics on your profile and I think it's safe to say its just new muscles getting acquainted with the compound. Take ibuprofen every few hours and it will help a ton and after a few pins in each site of the test e your muscles will be used to it you won't even need ibuprofen anymore until you jump on a different compound. First time on test e 250 gave me pip, got used to it and then used test e 400 and got pip again until I got used to it, now my right quad is pretty much bullet proof lol. Enjoy your cycle!
StevebYou could be allergic to the carrier oil. I have a similar reaction to many oils, grape seed oil is one of the few that does not give me PIP. Try another brand with a different oil in it. What gauge needle are you using?
This is the most likely culprit IMO. Carrier oil allergies are relatively common from what I have heard.
Rustyhooker^^^^^ this! Long Esters usually have no pip. Depends also on preparation, pin size, heating...yada yada.
But yes, carrier oils do effect us differently.
AnonI'm not sure what carrier oils he uses, but ill just keep shooting it and see wat happens
StevebThe gear picture you have is of cotton seed oil. CSO oil gives me horrible PIP and give me flu like symptoms. You probably have the same problem I do, try a different oil. And a short ester cotton seed oil will give me horrible PIP for a week.