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+ 1 Another DNP death

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I don't think this was already posted, but if so I apologize.

Here's the article on a girl that died just last month from a DNP overdose. The thing to note is that the girl was already anorexic and bulimic, not to mention on antidepressants. Needless to say, she was obsessed with weight loss. As I've said before, i don't speak ill of the dead. And I'm not one to judge without knowing the circumstances that led to a persons actions. Having said that, there's a reason why when a newb asks about DNP, there's always a vet who might jump at you and give you shit. They might be saving your life.
Having said THAT, and to play devils advocate, there's also plenty of folk who have run plenty of safe cycles/doses of dnp with great results. Either way, it is always sad to read when something like this happens.

Another thing to note from this article, if I'm reading this right, is that the company who sold the dnp can't successfully be sued because dnp is legal to sell as a fertilizer? Is this true in the U.S. as well?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/death-of-medical-student-...

White Bolt's picture

so whats the lethal dose of DNP

j223's picture

I believe the lethal dose is some crazy number like 4000mg.
But the accumulation is what gets ya it builds up faster than it is being consumed unless a person takes it every 3-4 days. So 500/day will build to well over 1000 over time if taken daily.
Overheating and dehydration is more of a concern though.

I don't understand why people go crazy with this stuff, a single 200mg/day for 1 month is much safer and almost unnoticeable but people are impatient and take stupid doses like 600mg per day or more.

thinktank's picture

?? bro, you're saying a 95kg (185lbs) person x 32mg= 2,960mg/d... that does sound crazy.

thinktank's picture

All good bro Smile

MuayThaiGuasian's picture

How come no one ever posts deaths from caffeine, ephedrine, or T3?

Greg's picture

or death by Hickey?

thinktank's picture

Big, I'm not going to speculate on G's motives. But I have noticed in real life there's religious people who like to push their beliefs on others with the sneaky use of "I'll pray for you" as a total put down.

Just the other day a coworker was telling us he wanted to marry his Asian girlfriend and this known religious bigot at work said "Well, I'll pray for you" rolled his eyes and walked away.

Religion is divisive and takes us away from facts and science.

Greg's picture

My purpose was to punctuate hating the substance v. hating the person.

Angus opening premise was, "Haters are gonna hate..." He was not differentiating and assumed people were hating him. IMO, his whole argument was an attack on those who disagreed with his position.

The use of the word prayer was in the form of a plea, as in, I pray for you to be careful, NOT AS: I pray to god to save you.

It was clear that he was grasping at anything to distract from, and end the conversation.

thinktank's picture

It's cool bro. Cheers for clarifying Smile

thinktank's picture

Angus, well said bro. I find you to be an intelligent guy and your opinion is always appreciated.

XvBeast's picture

worst compound create it. i always steer ppl away from it, i ll stick with my clen, caffine , and ephedra. everyone is allowed to have there opinion, but there are healthier ways to lose weight

j223's picture

Can DNP be used safely? Absolutely, but in the wrong hands it can and will kill you.

That's really sad though. I hate hearing these stories

thinktank's picture

X3, when people become fixated and obsessed on an outcome, they will do what they will do. Bodybuilding itself is no different. There are times when you tell people "No" and they hear "Hell yes", so the best one can do and keep doing is educating folk so at least they stay safe.

thinktank's picture

Zyzz was also doing a lot of coke + dnp + sauna...

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thinktank's picture

Good find.

Greg's picture

Comparing vitamins and DNP is like comparing grain alcohol to soda pop.

Moderation can not be known if the product you're taking is untested. And, you might tolerate the symptoms but not the effects.

The "haters" as you call them recognise that the risk is not worth the reward. The risk is even greater if you are self administering a UGL product without the supervision of a doctor. How often do you hear of a drug overdose because the product was not cut?

DNP is still being studied as a weight loss aid for the morbidly obese. Under a doctors care, where your body temp and dosage can be monitored DNP might have benefits that outweigh the risk.

I suspect however, those who are willing to go it on their own, are also the same type of risk takers that will keep pushing the limits. Death is not the only problem you might face. High body temps can cause a host of problems including brain damage and stroke.

Who's to say, like a boxer that takes too many blows to the head, that some years from now you too start showing symptoms from your "moderate use" of DNP years prior?

Yes, I have asked myself why. I asked when I was looking into the substance. The MORE knowledge and understanding I got, the more I hated.

I hate the risk. I pray for you.

Greg's picture

Ummm....pop and grain alcohol? I don't see the correlation.

As there is no correlation with DNP and vitamins as you tried to make in your first post.

You seem to be an intelligent individual so you must know by using inflammatory comments like, "Extremists", "Haters are gonna hate", and, "...is it (your) lack of knowledge and understanding?" that your message would get lost. You, in effect, became the problem you despise in others.

I think you underestimate the intelligence of those posting views not in line with your own. I believe that they have done their research and have made informed opinions. You're assumption otherwise is rather belittling.

If you're truly trying to "open our minds" rather than trying to convince yourself of the merits of your decision, then share with us those facts that made you change your mind.

Greg's picture

(CNN) -- Sugar-sweetened beverages are linked to more than 180,000 obesity-related deaths worldwide each year.

But still, the risk is very low that taking a dose will kill you as it is with "death by vitamin". So yes, your original analogy was flawed. It was used to downplay the high risks associated with DNP. Comparing DNP to Crystal Meth would have been more appropriate.

Yes, your intelligence is certainly debatable...

Obviously there is a gray because your stance is firmly in the "gray area".

You bloviate to disguise the fact that you still have not answered the one question I asked of you.

Why are you convinced? Share with us those facts that made you change your mind. Your personal experience.

Kazaa's picture

I just read in another article that she had been taking DNP for 18 months!! yikes..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2315433/Sarah-Houston-cause-de...

Kazaa's picture

I wouldn't blame the DNP as the single killer. Rather her anorexia.

Not that DNP is safe at all!

A shame she had to get such a horrible disease. :-(

thinktank's picture

I agree, it's the psychological issues that led to her bulimia and anorexia and depression that ultimately killed her, the dnp was the vehicle...

Modified's picture

They go directly to jail. Their disclaimers mean nothing when the company is advertising the product on bodybuilding forums.

thinktank's picture

Edit, sorry guys, The article is dated April 23/2013 but the death happened in 2012.