Cycle 3
Height: 5'10"
Weight Starting: 14-Stone (89kg) or (196lb)
BMI: 27.7
BF: <14%
Waste: 35"
Actual Starting Date: 14 May 2013
Week 6: Dropped Deca back down to 600mg weekly. Lot of pros advised me that 900 is too much. Why ask if I'm not going to listen? Dropped it down.
Ancilliaries: As needed (Caber/Aromisin), but plenty on hand
PCT: Will cruise at cycle end to next EBC, but plenty on hand
Front loading with NPP/D-bol, then moving to Deca/Equipoise and a small bit of Tren-E - with Caber used to control the added Prolactin buildup as the Tren is long ester.
My daily core diet consists of the following healthy foods:
Food Size Calories Protein Carbs Fat
Brown Rice 4 cups 864 20 180 8
Egg Whites 3 cups 351 78 6 0
Whole Egg 2 lg 180 16 0 12
Chicken Breast 800g 1266 246 0 24
Broccoli 1 cup 31 3 0 0
Meusli 1.5 cups 433.5 12 99 6
Skim Milk 1 cups 83 8 5 0
Bananna 1 medium 105 1 27 0
Mackerel 86g 134.16 19.78 0 5.16
Low Fat Yougurt 450g 354 22.5 60.3 1.2
Large Salad 3- cup 81 2.52 4.2 0
Calories 3882.66 Protein 428.8 Carbs 381.5 Fat 56.9
This is to be a much more smooth cycle than my EBC with an expected tightening up of the waste line while putting back mass to legs and upper body - focus on back. I expect a 10-lb gain on my legs as they have really dwindled away. I kept to my return goal of no free-weights until I had six-months back in the gym to allow tendons and ligaments to catch up. I have 'never' been good about back exercising due to a bum shoulder, but this year I am pushing my physical limits. I expect a lot of shredded mass on the back with tremendous emphasis on wide grip pull-ups and heavy dead lifts.
My expectation is a surge in size and power over the first six weeks due to the a-bomb/d-bol combination from the Pro Mass with a massive kick around week 3 or 4 when the tren hits full effect. After six weeks I will drop orals and depend strictly on diet and routine.
Concerns: Length of time on bridging two large cycles back-to-back. Thus PCT is not listed as it is difficult to decide which course of action, but all forms of PCT are on hand and will design according to when I begin. Switching from Tren to Nandrolone, but have read enough people who have done it and been happy. Already made the switch, so the concern part is really not applicable.
One huge goal here is to present beginning pics for the next EBC that represent a BB, not an out of shape old man. Improvement was a given this last EBC, though I am proud of my progress, but this next contest, I want people to say, "Oh shit, shirlsguy is back!"
| Week | Testosterone | Tren -E | Nandrolone-NPP | Caber | D-Bol | T3 | Deca | Aromision | Equipoise |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 300-400mg | 750mg (250 M/W/F) | 60mg ed | 50mcg ed | |||||
| 2 | 300-400mg | 750mg (250 M/W/F) | 60mg ed | 50mcg ed | |||||
| 3 | 300-400mg | 750mg (250 M/W/F) | 450mg (150 M/W/F) | .5mg M/F | 60mg ed | 50mcg ed | 12.5mg ed | ||
| 4 | 500mg | 250mg Mon | 450mg (150 M/W/F) | .5mg M/F | 90mg ed | 50mcg ed | 600mg | 12.5mg ed | |
| 5 | 1250mg (250 M-F) | 250mg Mon | 450mg (150 M/W/F) | .5mg M/F | 105mg ed | 50mcg ed | 900mg | 12.5mg ed | 800mg |
| 6 | 1250mg (250 M-F) | 250mg Mon | 450mg (150 M/W/F) | .5mg M/F | 105mg ed | 50mcg ed | 900mg | PRN (as needed) | 800mg |
| 7 | 1250mg (250 M-F) | 250mg Mon | 450mg (150 M/W/F) | .5mg M/F | 50mcg ed | 600mg | PRN (as needed) | 800mg | |
| 8 | 1250mg (250 M-F) | 250mg Mon | PRN (as needed) | 50mcg ed | 600mg | PRN (as needed) | 800mg | ||
| 9 | 1250mg (250 M-F) | 250mg Mon | PRN (as needed) | 50mcg ed | 600mg | PRN (as needed) | 800mg | ||
| 10 | 1250mg (250 M-F) | 250mg Mon | PRN (as needed) | 50mcg ed | 600mg | PRN (as needed) | 800mg |
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AnonI just think you jumped on tren way too early. I ran 5 cycles before I ever put tren in a shopping cart. Yes you'll get ripped I'm currently running 500mg test cyp 500mg Sust and GP Andromix which is essentially the cut stack. Good luck with your cycle am thanks for reading my advice I will e looking for those ebc pics!!! Good luck bro!
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkshirlsguyGood advice and to the heart! Low test with tren.... about 250 weekly.
AnonAt least your cycle has a test base. I've run 300mg test e and 800mg EQ before low test will keep a lot of sides down. When I run tren I like to have equal or almost equal test doses like 500/400 or 500/300 the most tren e I have ever run was 600mg per week with 300mg test e for my last ebc. You should be fine just make sure everything is in check!
AnonWay too much IMO I'd go with rustyhookers advice below me just add more test 500mg test cyp and 500mg Sustanon pin 1ml twice a week and boom. Your diet will determine the quality of muscle you receive not the compounds used. The Sustanon will give you the slight benefit of the short esters kicking in quicker and the test cyp is just great all around be smart here bro listen to the advice below me!
shirlsguyI have to go with high tren/low test philosophy so upping test is not an issue... believe me I wish it were,,,, shit is free, Finding quality tren is a diff matter.... I am two weeks on this BP tren and if it is a winner then we will know! So far, it is aces!!! SUST.... gives me good boners.... test-cyp more boners.... tren... fucking muscle... I have not posted a pic since ebc final... that's because i hit free weights again... I'm going to captivate!
Your advice: test: been there..... good stuff, you have all the right advise.
Muscle mass: not for me...I'm a 405lb bench press Man, 500bl squat.. and ripped in the abs.
Your advise is good... but not for me.. Next EBC, you're going to see shirlsguy "on cycle" no Clen or T3 and you're doing to know I'm not fucking around. Meanwhile...... give me real advice... more test...... my bloods are twice the level of a 19-year old... I need MORE.... sorry, I have to rate 'fail"... I'm real deal!
RustyhookerI dont like the cycle at all but its not my body. Coulda blew up huge with test only
shirlsguyI've been big before, Rusty... I'm looking for hard, dense muscle. Test brought me back to my old strength, no problems there... but not lean and not intense. Test also did not support me from catabolic effects of Clen/T3 (done cycling that now) and I was hitting it hard. Still, I support your advice and I would not argue it in any capacity.... test only cycle first. Still, it's running and you know good and well, there is no turning the page back.
RustyhookerYa...i keep warning folks the bad side of thyroid. Seems most days noone listens. At leadt you have all yoyr ancillaries. Run bloods and listen to body. You'll be huge, no worries. Lean is always the chore of figuring out your own bodies diet. Thats always the hardest part. Good luck n be safe
Are you kiddin around or is this the real cycle?
"Step on stage"
That's a ways away brother man, you got the time don't need so much AAS in this cycle!?
IMO it's overkill and set up to be harsh run, you simply do not seem like you have diet on point or am I missing something, I am being constructive (trying to) but to have "run all the tren" and look not so much like you even lift! Makes me wonder wtf is going wrong with your plans?
I'm here to help and your gonna fucking be the guy "oh shit shirls guy is here"
I'll help you get to that point for sure! It will be fun and hard and if you want my help?!? Lmk brother in Iron!
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shirlsguyYes, Gator, this is the real cycle.
'Placing' or even 'showing' is a ways away, stepping onto the stage is nothing more than an act of courage. Putting my pics on EBC in December with a 46" gut and 14" arms... that was hard... but the motivation to show change. 11 inches gone (12 dehydrated) and arms back at 18" with chest filling out... that is the change. 'Familiarity breeds similarity' (or contempt) and the only way I will really get the feel of contest is to get there. Yes, I know what it is like to be laughed at, but I also remember the last time I reached my goals, after 10-years of nattie lifting, not even protein drinks... it just takes an idea and a time. I plan to be on a stage before spring of 2014, not show or place, but be there and know the feeling.
Running all the trens is not an inmpressive act, I know that. It is waaay ahead of reason, and you are right, harsh and overkill... but I have overkill goals. It went pretty easily actually, tren-ace, more ace, enthenate and ace, then finally hex gave me the explosion I was after. More of a progression of addiction than accomplishment, but I have found that my body reacts very well to it and I like it.
"look like you don't lift"... correct. Had to diet two-stone away, tons of harsh and heavy fat burners, left me pretty burned out, but I assure you I do lift. The plan was strip bf down and get tendons/ligaments to a point that they were ready for heavy lifts. No free weights for six months, just putting myself under bars now.
Yes, all the help I can get, that is why I put this cycle up here. I know the answer... too much, too early, and too much bf. I put if up to keep from killing myself and learn some great input.... also to keep myself dedicated. I'm scared shitless of getting under 180kg on a bench again, hurt the hell out of my shoulder 10-years ago and pretty much took a break, which turned into a corporate job.. then fat... before I knew it I was wasted. I have huge mental debates as to whether I can stand to put six wheels on either side of a bar and squat it... but I've put my mouth out there, it;'s here in writing and it is time to show. Like when I put a 34" waste as EBC goal... and did it.
Never had even heard of TRT but when trying to get roids through a doctor, learned I was low test. Took my first ever SUST injection and it was like washing my eyes in the well of souls... I could see again.
I'll put the FR out there and we can fire up the pm's, but I assure you, I am for real. Like I said, I have a few major concerns, not to hurt my shoulder, blow out a knee of disc in the back; not to permanently mess my endo system, and most importantly, not to kill myself.
All the help offered is always received with welcomed attention. Thank you.
Well you are committed and that is great!
More people will chime in here an this ^post will help them see your willing to work towards your goals!
Congrats on the progress!
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shirlsguyGator - I fucking did it!!!! I'm more than hummingbird ass and ali'gator' mouth, I'm real deal, all the way. Just got my email back from edit contest in the. Ready or not, I'm fucking there! And I'm totally sober, not a drunken rage, but a heart-felt move. Now...... I need someone to teach me a fuckign routine!