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I just can't seem to keep the balance right with Nutrition intake. Was up to 230 last week, now back down to 224 this morning! ;-(
I'm distracted and not staying on top of my meals! Somebody slap some sense into me, I'm wasting time! No matter how hard I push in the gym I can't grow if I don't get enough food in me!

Update 5/2/13 - Ravenous by Anabolic Design came today! CG mentioned it to me a month or so ago.
Just had Hormel Chili over a big bed of Basmati rice an hour ago and I'm hungry again! Lets see if I can control the intake.

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j223's picture

Add some shakes into your diet. Or smoothies. Easy 500 calories here and there is always nice. It's easier to drink, and quicker too!

ANBRO's picture

Well... as much as I would love to help with the intake issue.. I can't.. I can however Slap the Shit Out of You.. If you're still looking for someone to do that. ;-)

It looks like you have some really good advise on here.. you got that.. don't over think it and just set your mind to it.. Keep pushing..

Gorillafit's picture

Sounds tempting, but lets save the slapping the shit out of me for another time! LOL ;-P
I'm sitting here just finished a cup and a half of 5 grain oatmeal and working on the eggs and turkey bacon but was surfing and eating slow and now I don't wanna finish it but I will! I adjusted last night and went 3x15 slow and controlled for everything. I'm pushing Boss, I'm Pushing!

MAC's picture

Damn that is a lot of EQ bro. Your running Deca too right? I would drop the HGH down a little, up the Deca, lower the EQ, up the test enan. Go to GNC or wherever and buy a shitload of Meal replacement bars, with a lot of cals In them, like I said its not about 3 big ass meals per day for guys like us- its the CONSTANT intake of food that fuels our muscles to grow. Maybe switch to a 3 day split like I am? What I'm saying is maybe your overtraining. Maybe take 4 days off and eat as much as u can. I did that a few wks ago and gained 6 lbs, seriously. It's like my muscles had a chance to chill out and rebuild. Just a short little 3-5 day break, then get back in gym and focus on really working out whichever specific muscle group your doing that day, for example a lot of people work out their front and rear delts when doing chest cause their form is wrong, or people will train forearms when they are trying to focus on biceps. Concentrate, and really lift that weight with the specific muscle you are training that day. I started really working on form and it has helped big time my chest which has always been a weaker spot for me, is starting to pop out ever since I started doing very concentrated reps with my pecs. Good luck brother you can do this

Gorillafit's picture

Its a 1500mg Monster Blend so I can only lower the whole dose and then up the Deca and Test individually. Or like I did this week leave the Monster the same ans add 250mg each of the Test and Deca 2 days later. I have cases of Meal replacement bars. I eat 5-7 meals a day. Yes concentration work is probably the next routine I run, an Xreps mass Routine?? Thanks!

Drywallstar's picture

I did the x reps routines before. Those partials are awesome!

Gorillafit's picture

I've used the Negative Accentuated during the first EBC and it worked OK to avoid any further Tendon damage. Tonight I just dropped the weight and did 3 sets of 15 real slow and controlled. "Get That Pump!" LOL ;-P

Drywallstar's picture

Bro we need you to rise to the occasion! Remember we are inspired by you and we need to follow your example!!!!!!! GET SOME AND ENTER BEAST MODE ASAP

Gorillafit's picture

Oh great! More pressure! LOL ;-P Momentary setback, I'll adapt!
Get That Pump!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=oN9KQNvYyxc

Drywallstar's picture

That was hilarious!

Theophany's picture

You'll get back on track brother G! If anyone can do it, you can. Like Viking said its all about quality and your physique is most aesthetically pleasing! Great quality +1

Gorillafit's picture

Its the size that's messing with me. I've got 3 NPC contests coming up in 3-3.5 months I've committed to for a Source sponsorship and I don't think at this pace I'm gonna accomplish the size I need to be competitive. I know I can cut down, I've done that but the muscle size is coming too slow! Maybe I'll just do physique? You get to wear cool shorts! LOL ;-P

iheartyou's picture

Keep motivated. You'll get back on track with the meals. You are seriously looking fantastic though, so you know what you're capable of ;) +1

Gorillafit's picture

Thanks iheartyou, momentary slip, I let Mr. negative speak to me for a lil while and tell me what I haven't achieved instead of looking at what I have. time to shut him up and get on with my life! Thanks again!

iheartyou's picture

I know you can do it and have complete faith in you. You honestly look fantastic, as does Mrs Fit ;)

Gorillafit's picture

Thanks again! Does she ever! And feels real god too! LOL ;-P

levelup's picture

Try getting a large wheat tortilla and loading it with avocado, steak, rice, black eyes peas, picode gallo or hot sauce for some spice. Seems to condense the food it make it easy to put down a large amount of food quickly...think about switching your training to forced reps, drop sets, and failure while using lighter weight..it forces so much more blood in the muscles imo than just lifting really heavy

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Gorillafit's picture

Thanks Levelup, I'm just getting lazy and there are so many excuses to fall back on! I will make the changes and I will be ready for these competitions! Good Luck!

levelup's picture

Eyes on the prize!

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Gorillafit's picture

That's the thing Bro, I already won the prize! Now it's time to represent, don't wanna let him down! Lotta pressure!

levelup's picture

Use that fear of failure to drive you! You got this shit

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Darktide's picture

You have to stop looking at the scale so frequently. Once we start segregating are passion into different compartments we lose the discipline to achieve our goals. Forget the scale, forget the distractions, forget the food inconsistencies. Ask yourself again what do you want the most, and then go after it don't be distracted by how strong your lifts have gone or your weight fluctuation. Train, eat, grow, and then receive what you want the most, the praise for your hard work. The praise is the goal, not the weight, or the strength! Everything you do in a day must be for a single selfish purpose and that is to win the prize of your goal. Fck all excuses, Fck the scale, and anything that distracts you for one second from being a better bodybuilder every second you live! Since you have already done this you know what to do it is time to re fire up and do it greater than before. Best wishes to you champ!:)

Gorillafit's picture

It's tough Brother, from being 247lbs with a 40" waist and no muscle, down to 196lbs and a 32" waist, the scale has always been my method of telling if I'm moving in the right direction with Nutrition and exercise balance. Nutrition wise I am poor at. If someone gives me a plan I will follow it. If left to my own I will adjust and rework based on the scale. I have always had a hard time with lean mass. I am using excuses to make myself feel better for not giving it my all. Some are valid like the tendons which limit pulling and curling, but I have worked around them in the past. There are too many excuses\reasons to list. I have lived most of my life on excuses only recently taking responsibility for my actions, this is just a slip. Its time to be dedicated again. I will find a way to make everything work! Thanks for the insight!

Darktide's picture

Believe me I know all to well about being knocked down. I personally think you should take a week off from the gym. Others I know don't believe in over training but i do because there are various causes especially has we age. If you take a week off I would bet you will come back fuller, stronger, and with a increased appetite. Goth talks about older guys in prison who train less and get huge because they have figured out how not to over train based on their age. I have found this true as well for me, and even younger fighters that I help train. I also believe you will be mentally refreshed as well. Either way brother I can't feel sorry for you, you look to damn good! =)

Gorillafit's picture

A whole week? Straight? I think I'd go nuts! I took a few days off last week due to joint pain and the blahs, might have been a sign that I ignored? Maybe in a couple weeks, we just started Mrs.Fit on a new HIIT routine to close out the last 2 weeks of the EBC. I wanna be there for her! Thanks Again Brother, I always appreciate your comments!

iheartyou's picture

Truer words were never spoken. I love reading your posts...you always hit the nail on the head ;)

Darktide's picture

Well coming from you with your beautiful heart I could not be more humbled by such a compliment. Thank you:)

iheartyou's picture

;)

klon's picture

Eating/prepping is the hardest part of training consistently and making progress.

If you know that's the problem, at least it can be solved. Are you sure you aren't overtraining?

Gorillafit's picture

I've heard many times you can't over-train just under-eat. But maybe its time to de-load. I got the PBs I was looking for. Would have liked to bring the Dead-lift up to 500. It'll be there next go round. I got the 300 bench I've wanted my whole life! Time to focus on mass. Although I thought increasing my lifts would increase my mass?!?!?!?

MAC's picture

I'm the same way. Consume many calories but won't get past the plateau, but that just means between food and training something isn't right, there isn't a perfect synergy going on between the two. One thing I do, which screws me over for sure is I allow myself to "go hungry" ill be at work, or not at home, driving around and I'm getting hunger pains, I let that happen too much, and as soon as my body gets hunger pains I'm in catabolic mode, I have an ultra fast metabolism like you do too I would think, so if I don't stay on top of my calories, not really the amount per day but the TIME we eat matters the most, guys with slow metabolisms can get away with going a couple hours without eating, but with a fast metabolism we gotta eat constantly even if they are smaller portions. I feel like that's my biggest problem. And then I just switched to a 3 day split training, because I'm so lean, I workout every other day, but on the days I do train I go Way harder than if I was doing it 5 days on 2 off , and then I allow a day of rest between each training day, and I will eat eat eat as much as I can on those days. So I'm gonna give that a shot started last week and ill get back to you to see how it goes

Gorillafit's picture

Same here, I'll look at the clock and say time to eat then not do it for an hour. I have to start prepping meals again like before. I don't wanna take Mrs.Fits prepped stuff so I wind up just getting a shake. I'm wondering if the HGH and T4 is keeping my metabolism too high. I'm pinning enough EQ 2000-2600\wk (Monster Blend), that I should be starving constantly but I'm not. I just switched Mrs.Fit over to an HIIT routine (2on 1off 2on f2off) for the last couple weeks of the EBC, so I can switch up my routine and days to match her days. Maybe I am "Overtraining" by Undereating???

Gorillafit's picture

Not that I'm aware of. BP has remained OK. Had a bit of Joint pain last week but I think that was the switch to Riptropin at the same 5iu dose I was running Hyges at. The Rips have been posting almost twice the serum levels as Hyges.

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Bodybuilder or wrestler.......... work for quality, quit with all this PB stuff and start isolating body parts more instead of training like a weight-lifter, we have spoken about tupperware boxs bro and if that aint working you are going to have to invent some 1000 cal shakes and supplement with those 3x day ... if you already take in 2500/3000 through solid food this will jack your daily intake sky high..... experiment now brother before you start to lose confidence in yourself.

DO IT RIGHT NOW.... SKIM MILK,100G OATS, PEANUT BUTTER, TEASPOON OLIVE OIL/FLAX SEED OIL,...... IT GOES ON .. USE YOUR IMAGINATION THIS JUST COULD BE THE TURNING POINT TO NEW GROWTH.

Gorillafit's picture

The PB's I've been going after have been lifts I can still go heavy on and not mess with the forearm tendons. Bench, Squat and Deadlift to increase size and keep me motivated. The rest of my Routine is 3 additional exercises per Main Body part\day.
Chest after Bench would be Incline Bar\DB fly or Hammer strength Incline, Flat DB Bench, Cable Cross Over\Flys. Followed by 2 Tricep exercises.

After Deadlifts its Pulldowns, T-Bar Rows\1 arm DB Rows, Close Grip Cable Rows, Upright Rows\Triple shrugs (out, in, behind back), usually would follow with Bi work but have dropped direct Bi to rest the Tendons.

After Squats, leg extensions\Leg Presses, Ham Curls, Hip adduction-Abduction, Glute Kickbacks.

Shoulders\Abs\Calfs- Military Press straight or DB, lateral raises, Face Pulls, Upright rows\front Raises\Cable Ab Crunches - Hammer Strength Ab Crunch Machine\ Seated Calf Raises\Calf Extension machine.

I haven't used the tupperware since the cutter. It worked well because of the measured small portions. Now I'm eating more but not consistant IMO. I'll be an hour past a mid meal or skip it because of where I am. for the last week I have been using MHP Up your mass with Whole milk twice a day, and inner armor Mass Peak with Whole milk post workout. Cassein shake before bed.

I have to find my focus again. I'm going through the paces with no real plan just an outline and its not working. I have got to get back on track!

The shakes, just the oats and stuff? No Protein powder with it?

Thanks for your time! I Appreciate it!

Iron_Addict0929's picture

VIKING gave some pretty solid advice there. I love to lift heavy and intense, probably why I've had my share of injuries. What I do is I incorporate heavy sets in my routine, as low as 6 reps on some sets. Then I immediately drop the weight and and crank out strict / high reps. I do this for about every muscle group. I feel like the heavy weight is beneficial to create micro tears in the fibers and then the high reps immediately after force a high volume of blood in the muscle to expand the tears more. Every trainer has a variation of some sort with this method. Right now Hany Rambod is popular since he's had success with Cutler and Heath. He dubs his system FST-7, nothing special he created, it's a principle that's been around forever.

As much as lifting heavy is enjoyable, quality reps and time under tension are better for growth than heavy weight alone. Also I know you want size and others have said don't go by the scale, and it's true. The scale is the worst gauge. You could have lost 5 pounds in water weight from carb fluctuation from one day to the next. If you normally eat X amount of carbs and then eat less the next day, water is going to be dropped since there isn't as many carbs in the body for it to be attracted to. That's usually the culprit for quick 1 day change in weight. You want quality mass my friend, if you can't flex it, don't carry it.

If you need extra calories, I always did something unique with myself and a few hard gainers I work with. I would take 1.5-2 cups plain Greek Yogurt, mix it with a protein powder of your choice (single scoop will do, i usually use Gaspari Myofusion Peanut Butter Cookie dough in this concoction). Then mix a heaping scoop of PB (I like honey roasted PB) and 1 packet of apple cinnamon oatmeal. Throw all those ingredients in a dish, mix, and enjoy. Tone of calories in that, with a good amount of protein, fat and carbs. Also if your searching for more cals, switch to denser protein sources (red meats, fatter fish, extar whole eggs, etc.)

My biggest thing when I hit a plateau in growth is usually a need for more food. My crabs and protein come in at a steady rate. So usually rainsing the fats is the best bet for me (1 gram carb and protein=4 calories, 1 gram fat=9...so for density sake, fats get raised when I'm in a bind). I usually get more fats by switching my protein sources like I said. I will also chow down on almonds, PB, macadamian nut oil on veggies and in some shakes (not post workout shakes). And the wife has found a way to make avocados appealling in some dishes so I use them sometimes also. I also like to keep a gallon of BCAAs that I sip on with whole food meals, along with my standard gallon of H20. Just a couple ideas....

Gorillafit's picture

Thanks Bro, I just have to get back on track, or change tracks, likely both! Its time, I got the Bench I was after forever and when I did it didn't really make me feel the way I thought it would! My intake is all over the place, I've been eating whats available and trying to maintain with shakes and bars.

You want quality mass my friend, if you can't flex it, don't carry it.

That is a big part of my issue I think? I saw what I could look like during that cutter and as my weight comes up there is too much fat with it and I slow down eating.

Gorillafit's picture

Yeah, its time for a routine change anyway. I have a lot of the Xreps routines I'll take a look at a couple of the mass routines.

Gorillafit's picture

Thanks Waltr, I love Rice and Beans! I have been doing a cup of Rice with some meals but not the beans.

Gorillafit's picture

Thanks!

Ronny13's picture

i know how you are feeling.. eating like a freak and dont gain weight.. but its not only the weight bro .. looking good

Gorillafit's picture

I need the size to be competetive in these NPC contests this August, its making me nuts!