1st cycle in three years need advice
before anyone says it, I jumped the gun i know. So I've been leaning out since January and I feel like a stick and I'm ready to put on some quality mass. So I went on steroidsforyou. And placed an order from their cycle section. The cycle I got is shown below now it hasn't shipped yet so I can still add to it. They have a dosage schedule that is posted on the page as well but based on the research I've done, it doesn't look right at all. Will you all PLEASE take a look at the set up and tell me what you think as far as how to run it and what else I will need as far as AI's and PCT. your experience and knowledge would be greatly appreciated. I really need some advice on how to tweak this
Basic Mass Cycle:
Total:
4 x Testosterone Enanthate 1250
4 Deca 1000 mg 5 ml PL series
126 tabs Dianabol (120 tabs)
60 tabs Tamoxifen
20 tabs Proviron
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Basic mass cycle for you:
testosterone Enanthate @500mg for 12 weeks
Nothing more nothing less
Use Aromasin or Arimidex for on cycle estrogen control
Run full
Nolva and Clomid pct
Which will start two weeks after your last Tet E shot!
Weeks
1-12
Test E @500
2-12
Aromasin or Arimidex on cycle estrogen support; do research to learn bout doseages
13,14
Off cycle
15,16,17,18
Nolva and Clomid pct; do research to learn bout doseages
You have no business using Deca and you will regret it if you do use it as you are not prepared nor educated enough to use it safely; it requires advanced know how that you do not have and also prolactin control meds which you also do not have!
AnonHey man I appreciate your honesty. That's what I was looking for. And after doing more research i was feeling the same way. your right im no educated enough about it but i am eager to learn. So I'm in the process of trying to change my order before it ships hopefully. I have $330 crest at steroidforyou. If you don't mind could you tell me what I should spend it on because I'm pretty sure just what you told me to get wont cost that much and ill have some credit left over. Maybe item towards next cycle.if you could I'd really appreciate it. Either way thank you for your educated opinion
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.Permalinksafetyfirst21Keep the test. I'd keep the Dbol also, I liked the effect just not the water weight. You could keep the proviron, though I don't know shit about how to use it, I just know what it does. You really won't need much other than the Test, your receptors are squeaky clean.
AnonI've decided to change things up after educating myself with lots of research. I'm going to simplify. I'm posting it now under 1st cycle please let me know what you think and for all your help
one of the worst cycles i ran was deca/dbol/test. i kept non of the gains and i think i maybe still alittle shut down from it (1 year later)
AnonCuz u didn't run it by me first negro!!! There's a few tricks to running Deca that u gotta do to really see the best out of it
safetyfirst21What tricks you got?
AnonThanks for the advice. Is there a cycle set up you could recommend? Please the order hasn't shipped so I think I can probably still change it. If you don't mind I'd really appreciate it. It's steroidforyou if you want to see what they have avail. Thanks again
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.Permalinksafetyfirst21I'm not a big fan of cycle kits, they're supposed to be simple but they usually look fucked. You'd wanna run the Deca for at least 12 weeks, then the Test for a good 2 weeks longer, so you'll need more Test to run it for 14 and keep it 100mg (or more) higher than the Deca. Dbol I'd hit for 4-5 weeks, whatever that works out to with what you have, your Test should have kicked in by then. You'll need some Prami or Caber for the Deca (19-nor, prolactin issues). Start at .25mg ed of Prami after 2-4 weeks, or .25mg caber e3d from the start maybe a week in, you can make adjustments up or down if necessary. The proviron really wouldn't be too necessary, though it could be used to amplify the Test, I'll leave that part for someone more experienced. You'll need some Adex or Aromasin for estrogen sides. Aromasin would start at 6.25mg ed (<--better) or 12.5mg eod after 1-2 weeks (you could start from the beginning, Dbol will aromatise quick), Adex would start at .25mg e2d/e3d, these can also be adjusted up or down based on sides. Depending on where we end up dosage wise you would start PCT 2-3 weeks after last Test pin. You'll want to run Prami for 1-2 weeks into PCT. I've read about Nolva increasing prolactin for up to 2 weeks after first use, so with that and Deca it would be wise to keep your prolactin levels in mind. Clomid: 100/100/50/50 Nolva: 40/40/20/20. If you use Aromasin and run it through PCT (would make the most sense), you can lower the Nolva to 20/20/10/10, this would help with the worry over prolactin. Deca is gonna shut you down hard, so HCG while on would be good, or a blast at the tail end before starting PCT, just be sure to leave 5 days between HCG and PCT start.
AnonSounds like I would need to do a lot of tweaking. If I can talk to the supplier and cancel my order do you think I would be better off setting up my own cycle ? If you don't mind could you help me by giving me a layout of a good basic mass cycle?
safetyfirst21Yes, I would cancel and design my own if I were you.
AnonGoals: I've been leaning out since January and I feel like a stick I'm ready to put on some solid mass how should I set this stack up to work best then?
safetyfirst21Super bloat man. That combo of dbol, deca, and test with no ai will fill you up with water. Don't run the Tamox while on, you need an ai and caber or prami. 8 weeks of deca seems odd to me, its a long ester and you'll need more time on it. I'd lower the dose of everything and lengthen the run. Whats your PCT looking like? The proviron dosing also seems odd to me.
AnonGoals: I've been leaning out since January and I feel like a stick I'm ready to put on some solid mass how should I set this stack up to work best then? If possible?
RustyhookerGoals bro?
AnonGoals: I've been leaning out since January and I feel like a stick I'm ready to put on some solid mass how should I set this stack up to work best then? If possible?