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guna run Insulin for the first time

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Im guna start with Humalog 3 times a day , 6ius each shot for now, then i will up the dose as my body start to resist and feel. im still working out the calories and the grams . gunna do this for 4 weeks on then 4 weeks off. is there anything thing else i should know to take advantage of this and keep it as safe as possible? be patient w/ me guys. I'm going to add in a tren test cycle with this. not going to use HGH , so I'm trying to construct a diet that will minimize the fat

phil113kg's picture

Okay, has anyone ever heard of the brand Actrapid Penfill a pharmaceutical slin that comes in a pre filled pen?

angus's picture

I've seen it in the 10ml vial. But not the pen.

XvBeast's picture

up 10lbs this week, taking novalin preworkout

wallabokkie's picture

Well I am glad it's working for you mate. Just keep on top of it buddy. Don't want any bad shit to happen to you. Take care man.

XvBeast's picture

i been using slin guys and I'm good and been seeing good results , so i appreciate all u guys helping me out.. so far i experience no side effects which is good. thanks every one

P's picture

What dosage protocol are you using?

XvBeast's picture

8ius novalin . I'm doing exactly wat juice suggested

Anonymous's picture

hey bro...... im kinda hoping youll hold off on slin in my honest opinion i dont think you been running gear long enough.... others may argue or not but thats my opinion.... ive ran gear for a looooooong time and only recently started hgh after researching hgh for 2 years jus reading experiences on hgh facts about hgh good and bad... theres alot of both and i havent even thought about running slin.... and i may never my2c

XvBeast's picture

Sorry bro, I already started 4 days ago . Currently doing 4ius. Still alive

Anonymous's picture

keep us posted then as you go.... hope you do well we are here homie

XvBeast's picture

well the muscle fullness is ridiculous , so far im loving it , my muscles are very round on it. i have not experienced any side effects. i been following Juice's advice word for word and so far im good and its been safe so far. the only thing i dont like is the bloat. my stomach is always bloat it and i'm always feeling full. could be also water retention from the creatine and GHRP 2 that im taking.

wallabokkie's picture

Hey mate slow down a bit. Not really any point in running slin while not on GH. definately take up trains offer bro. But guys keep it here and not in PM. I also want to learn more about this topic.

juice 2's picture

Disagree I've run slin plenty without gh, also run it with gh. When I was eating as many carbs as I was a while back it was pretty much a necessity for me to run it. 15-2"iu 3x a day made a world of difference in gains when I added it in

wallabokkie's picture

Fair enough mate. I am no expert on slin, but still feel that he should slow down a bit. i do think that alot of the weight that will be gained by taking slin without GH would be fat and not muscle. But thats coming from what little I know about slin. Even when taking GH with slin the BF gains are also increased a bit. Not really what he wants at the moment as he is starting to get ready for a comp

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

Take up TRAINS offer now bro before you enter a world of pain with no return.

Dont try to run before you can walk imo.

Anonymous's picture

slin is such a dangerous game to play if you don't know what you're doing. personally, i'm not a fan of the possibility of my pancreas tapping out.

juice 2's picture

I've never heard of this happening to someone who used insulin responsibly. You're speaking of constant abuse. Frankly I've run a lot of insulin and my pancreas is just fine. I've also ran it for more than 4 weeks. Like I said, constant abuse. Using it on just days you workout will not lead to this happening, nor will short blasts of insulin. Decreased insulin sensitivity yes, but not destruction of pancreas. You've let the fear pushing boards get in your head a bit too much here

XvBeast's picture

i have heard the opposite , I heard that by taking slin u relieve stress off ur pancreas because it doesnt have to work as hard

klaydo68's picture

I admittedly dont know much about insulin protocol but isnt gh pretty much a necessity to maximize the full effects of slin

XvBeast's picture

yes ur right, but slin can be used alone as well or with AAS

MuscleDevelop's picture

Running slin without HGH and AAS is like a 75 year old granny driving a Zonda!

XvBeast's picture

i ll run AAS with it.

trainbrain's picture

Your going to start at 6iu x 3 a day?
Thats ridiculous bro sorry to tell you. You cant start at an advanced slin protocol.
What you need to do is work up to a certain amount. Try 4-5iu post workout and gradually increase the dose if you can handle it.
What protocol are you going to follow?
what do you know of L-Glutamine, creatine & dextrose while running slin? If you cant answer these then you have no business running slin.
pm me for advice if you need

XvBeast's picture

thanks bro, i appreciate u helping me before i done something dumb.. I did more research, I ll follow ur advice , Im gunna use novalin R.. I will inject 4-5 ius after workout and i will take 10g of carbs and 10g of protein per iu right after and i will do 10g dextrose per IU with 15g of creatine , and 15g of glutamine and amino acids. i appreciate u looking out .will post updates and pics

juice 2's picture

You do not know what the fuck you are doing. You're going to take novalin post workout, eat right after, you're probably going to go hypo the first fuckin day. Although I don't believe 3x a day insulin protocol is advanced when running it on a short blast, I do believe that you have absolutely no clue what you're trying to do. It was extremely apparent when you said you wanted to minimize fat gain, yet you were ready to consume 200g carbs after each injection. Please do more reading and come back with something better.

Roid Noid's picture

this is the advanced section if you got information theres no need to hold out. not sure why train wants to go to PM either, this is what this section is for.

juice 2's picture

Not trying to hold out, trying to let the man do a little research and come back with a better plan. But fuck it. Novalin is shit to use post workout. If you want to hit slin post workout, which I don't recommend Preworkout is much more optimal, I would run logs, humalog, novolog. Start with 2iu. There's absolutely no reason to start higher when you can just up the dose daily. Ideally one should have a bg monitor and would be monitoring bg levels for a few days before running insulin to see how training and carbs effect insulin levels. Yes, 2iu is not a high dose. But by the end of that week one could easily be up to 5iu. I prefer to take insulin Preworkout, about an hour before if I'm running regular insulin and not logs, and during workout consume 10g bcaa 10g creatine and depending on the dose I took 40-100g Karbolyn. I don't like dextrose, trial and error on that one. I also never found much additional benefit of adding glutamine to regular bcaas. The peak on humalog is around two hours and the peak on Humulin is around 3-4 hours. Novalin/novolog are almost identical, and those statistics are from an old chart on Eli Lilly's website which no longer exists, but I saved it because it's great to have. Now if you take Novolin post workout you will see how you are not at all optimizing the insulin as it is peaking nowhere near where you would originally be done working out and consuming your post workout meal. This is why Preworkout is The superior method, and although it's not leaking as you're working out it still is active in the bloodstream so you will be utilizing the nutrients you're consuming more efficiently. Following workout eat your normal post workout meal. Hope that helps.

wallabokkie's picture

Hey mate I have also heard about the PWO insulin protocol, but that was using Novorapid. As I a m sure you know its onset is 15 miutes. I am far from an expert in this topic but I am trying to learn more. Have also hear about a two teared approach using novorapid PWO and Lantis for the longer duration effect to keep the compound active active after ceasation of the Novorapid. What are your thoughts on this

kodiakGRRL's picture

would it be too much to ask you to make a "beginner" post on starting slin with a basic protocol ? maybe train and papa can contribute as well.

XvBeast's picture

appreciate the info, gunna wait a little on the insulin until i look more into it for the next 3 weeks. thank u for the info, obviously I'm missing something because everywhere i read people said inject it after workout but i look more into it to find out when the peaks are and the right things to eat with it. thank u bro

XvBeast's picture

Gunna look more into it