posted Sat, 12/29/2012 - 07:46
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So Im going to start my second cycle within a month. Maybe sooner. money money money. Anyhow, my first cycle was great and horrible. test e for 10 weeks, played with tne a bit. lost all my gains, used an otc AI, bunk clomid that made me sick, didn't get my normal feeling of myself back till months after cycle.
so all of this, Im going to do the same cycle again. this time I will use prop in the beginning to get a kick start. I was also use a real AI, so if anybody could recommend which they prefer of the 2 n how they dose it would be nice. also anybody with similar results that can shed some light and also give me some position ity I would appreciate much. thank you.
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5'10 175 going for muscle gain before strength gains. 12%bf or so. One previous cycle which I already stated.
Looking at stats and first cycle was a flop. Test e only....first cycle. You need to be correct before you go on being fancy and screwing up again. Normally given the stats I'd say you need food and not even give cycle advice.
1-12 test e ONLY 500/wk split
14-18 pct
Ai....aromasin 12.5Ed
Pct
Aromasin 12.5 12.5 6.75 6.75
Clomid 100..100..50..50
Nolva 20...20...10...10
Crappy part is you've been here long enough and still dont know researchin6?! First cycle...theres over 100 just like that on cycle logs
Of course I have researched. by doing so I have seen many people get different advice based on their certain attributes. such as yiu said 12.5 ed while under us it says 12.5 eod. or I have even seen 12.5 e3d.
I was going to do prop so that I don't have anything left laying around. If I do test for 12 id have some left over. unless you suggest me being able to up the dosage either in front or behind.
another reason why I made my own post is looking for anybody who had a bad first cycle who could have said ya same shit with me, I did this n this is how I fixed it. Cool?
There's several newbs on here with karma full out mixing up AROMASIN and ADEX(ANASTROZOLE). So i run thru and poke reminders but fools don't read and keep pushing it as adex. Adex half life is 3 days..hense .25e3d as base. The difference between adex and aromasin can easily be researched by half life. I understand fully the jist of your post. Reading forums...cycle logs a few hours all have the same ending. It's your body...so you blast prop as you will. Main concern is like with many newer cyclers....havent yet perfected food or first cycle. Test only will bust you a good 15+ solud pounds with the right foids. Yet, many new folks believe."lets add in this, that and sone of those"
That's why I come to the conclusion of just running test again. was thinking deca or even d bol but figured no I need to get this down first. How much of a no go do you think the prop idea is? Or upping the dose somewhere along the lines of test e?
Deca is a harsh shutdown....running it before exhausting regular cycles not advised imo.
Prop is possible at 100eod first 4Weeks and Weeks 13-14. But more is not better. At 175 wishing to mass is all about food. Right now if your food and gym aline were perfect...most likely you be near/over 200 and growing on a light cycle would be a snap. More gear and lacking food just converts to more sides.
I don't want just mass, I can actually gain that easy. I want lean gains
Lean gains are completely controlled by foods. Roids are simply aspirin.
I understand. I want the gain I had last time, but to stay lol. Also why did you suggest running prop weeks 13, 14 as well?
Thats typically a second cycle but you have 2Weeks til pct. The test e will be moving out of your system. Prop has short hslf life so it keeps you level while test e is going away. Pct starts 2 days after last prop shot. And yes...proper ai/pct brands definitly help maintain gains
Pm me what you mean proper brands
Half life for aromasin is a day.. If you want stable lvls you'll use it every day and if 12.5 is to high take it down to 6.25ed.. liquid aro is easiest to dose this way
Perfect!
Well I've gotta add typically liquid aro you get from research companies is underdose =/ But I will say there is one place that had their aro on point =]]
Which might be...? Lol. pm...
pm me n ill tell you
You can click on folks name...pix....that'd how ya know ;)
So if I used pills n not liquid how should I dose it?? Break the pills in half...?
Pharmacies sell pill splitters for $2. They work great! Dosing of everything is important. Estro too high you get titts and lose muscle...estro too low your joints get painful and you don't grow. Noone likes the wording but these are medications. Proper dosing has effects both good/bad
Anongnc sells pill cutters also
How do I know if 12.5 is too high a dosage?
Achy joints, squishy boner, ....easiest way is google low estrogen side effects.
AnonIm thikin that should be a pre-req to even join up on eroids...no stats listed then u cant be on eroids
AnonOr you could be like me and lie. I'm really 19, 5'4", 245 lb, and 36% bf.
It really should be. I forget that sometimes the best advice to give is none at all. By the way 5'10 227 13%bf 20+ "cycles" and I enjoy long walks on the beach with my dog.
Dammit! Now I'm jonesin for some surf!
It's been way too long brother. I'm severely land locked now, but I'll always call Cali my home.
The land of sunshine is foggy n cold today. Lmao!
Well I'm looking out at a bunch of snow. Fun if you're a kid. Annoying if you're a grown up.
AnonI'm in the same boat.. snowed EOD for 2 weeks now
Just did the yearly snow trip with kids. 4° and we're out romping like dorks in the snow. Lol! Back home now cozy/warm.
AnonLol! Straight to the point huh bruh
I prefer aromasin while running long esters. Does a much better job with the water retention and bloat, which can also help keep your bp under control. Where is your bf% at now?
Around 12. how yiu dose your aromasin
Generally 6.25 ed or 12.5 eod. But you better listen to Fast or he'll come after us both lol.
Lol! Naaaa....too lazy to chase people. Just sucks when someone has a Nice amount of karma going...did the original ebc like 9 months ago...errored...and didn't do any research since.