posted Sun, 12/23/2012 - 17:42
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ATHLETE 1st time w/ oral dBOL (any advice?)
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This will be my 4th cycle. Plan on doing 10 weeks 1.5cc test prop eod, 80mg anavar, and was gonna try some oral DBOL...
I'm planning on using Dbol for about 6 weeks and using Liver cleanse throughout. Am scared about the estrogen conversion So I will use proviron the whole time and have adex on hand. I am also a little concerned about gassing out on the football field, the past few cycles I had a hard time running and also got bad lower back pains. Any advice would be helpful, Thanks!
BTW I'm prepared for some of you to be against anavar and dBol at the same time, Im still debating.
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If your stats are true and your really close now to all these lifts then why do you need a forum to tell you what to do
LoL
210 at 7%bf is hard to accomplish
It a big difference from 12% and low water to really. 7%
Are you just guessing or really a quality BmI reading?
Lastly how tall cause 210 @ 5'9" is different than 6 2 or something
LOL! I knew i was gonna get some shit! Im 29 210lbs. 7%bf Goals are to get stronger for a combine style interview with coaches, I would really like to resemble athletics like Bo Jackson... Big, fast, and strong! Get my deadlift to 600. bench to +400, backsquat to +450 and a 4.4 40yard dash. I'm really close to all these off cycle. I usually keep a lot of my weight and strength with each cycle. ( Now make fun of me for my detailed goals, I'm Ready!)
For endurance and strength...take a look at test/eq cyp. Eq cyp is faster than bold und so no need for superlong cycle. 12Weeks 600/600 with prop 150eod kicker/taper. Eq boosts appetite. Endurance from rbc increase.
1-4 prop 150eod
1-12 eq cyp 600
1-12 test e 600
13-14 prop 150....2days after last pin pct.
Aromasin 12.5 Ed from week 3 thru cycle into modified pct
Pct
Aro 12.5 12.5 6.75 6.75
Clomid 100...100..50..50
Nolva 20...20..10..10
Let me guess...you wear number 85 and play for the 49ers. Actually you need to pickup about 40lbs or so. J/k bro... those are great goals.
Age, height, weight, and body fat levels are really needed to give you proper help. I think Dbol is not good for the endurance you are going to need on the field. The way it works gorging certain places on the body with pumps will effect your speed and endurance.
A real cycle with these compounds would look like this
Test e @600 EW 1-14
Prop at 100mg Ed 1-16
Dbol 1-4
Anavar 10-16
Otherwise it's a waste
You can not really bulk and cut
Nor can you get big on dbol and ripped on Anavar in 8weeks that's retarded but to do a full bulk cycle and dry and harden up with var now that's possible
I'd never agree with double dipping the orals. 4 weeks of dbol. 6 week break before 6 weeks of var is not a healthy way to run a cycle.
Agree! Plus the overkill of prop and dbol??
IMO orals and short and long estered tests are appropriate at times in combo
In reality I wouldn't even use dbol for any reason
It's says with these compound as a more realistic cycle that's all guys
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Just following his words for goals. Keeping fast on field isn't easy with 10lbs waterload of dbol. Plus the cramping of dbol and var of course cramps from pumps...then he's useless on field. So going by his goals...eq boosts endurance..less water retention and good strength gains. If he was off season bulking up for winter....sure!
Taurine helps with pumps
Also you should run a long ester test too
Prop is not really legit base bc of the Quick duration
I get those really bad lower back pumps off the D-bol One of the more advanced guys on here told me to just keep pounding water and make sure to eat 2 bananas a day and that really helped.
Stats?!
Dbol and var is like sticking garden hose up butt then eating exlax. Why load up water...to crash when dbol drops to hurt liver trying to dry up. What are your goals? Bf?? Timelines?
Hehe...man that's some imagery.
LOLLOL
Well let me ask you this. Why would you want to run Dbol and Anavar at the same time?
uunhhhm to get big in 4 weeks then get ripped in 4 weeks duhhhh
biggerthanyouHahaha thats what im sayin lmfao