posted Sun, 12/09/2012 - 16:19
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Sust And Deca
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Stats:
Age 21
hight 5'6
weight 170lbs
bodyfat 9%
I want to cycle Sust 250 and Deca 300 what would be the best way to run this cycle? I was thinking 2 shots of sust a week monday and thursday 250mg per shot and one shot of deca a week mondays 300mg not sure about my pct as this is my first cycle and i need some advice
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roidsandrageDay 1: 200mg (1cc) of Deca + 150mg (3/5 of a cc) of Sus
Day 2: no shot
Day 3: 150mg (3/5 of a cc) of Sus
Day 4: no shot
Day 5: 150mg (3/5 of a cc) of Sus
Day 6: no shot
For 10 Weeks
Then on week 12 start My PCT
Day 1: 300mg of Clomid + 20mg of Nolva + .25mg of Arimidex
Day 2-7: 100mg of Clomid + 20mg of Nolva + .25mg of Arimidex
Days 8-28: 50mg of Clomid + 20mg of Nolva + .25mg of Arimidex
roidsandrageOr Should i drop the deca completely?
NO DECA, trust me.. run 750mg a week of sus either split in 2 sunday night and thursday morning or split into 3 mon, wed and friday.. u may have to start ai early cause of the short esters.. if your knips get itchy then start immediatly.. remember lots of water..
BS advice to a 21 year old. -1
Wow dude the only thing thats worse then this kid running a cycle right now is you encouraging him to run that jacked up cycle no deca no sus train and eat right ur still young. But i kno your still not gonna listen to any of us becuase ur young and u made your mind up even tho i highly recommended u dont cycle for a few more years. Im gonna try and help u any way cause i dont wanna see any body get bad advice and fuck there body up. Instead of researching about gear why dont u spend the next day researching on pct the best cycle doesnt mean shit if you dont have everything else in place diet work out regimen and the most important as far as your balls and your gains will be ruined with out a good pct so first standard cycle isTest e/c 500mg a week for 10 or 12 weeks split into two shots 250mg each day either on sunday and wednesday or monday and thurs
Adex .25mg every third day nips get sore .25mg every other day on cycle
Pct aromasin weeks 1-4 6.25 mg every day this dosage can be played with tho and
Clomid weeks 1-2 100 mg every day weeks 3-4 50mg every day
Nolva weeks 1-2 40 mg every day weeks 3-4 20mg every day
Use the search bar do research there is a lot of ppl here that will help and give a lot better advice then this guy my door is always open as long as u have an open mind and will listen now i just spent like 15 minutes typing this up because i dont wanna see u go down the wrong path so please listen i wouldnt of typed all this to steer you in the wrong direction
High five! Save a younger from bad mess. +1
One at a time thanks bro
roidsandrageThanks for your advice i will definently look into test cyp are you 100 percent i should not substitute this with sus?
Nah bro too many compounds in one test e or c 10 to 12 weeks if diet and workout is on point u wont be disappointed trust me you'll prolly be around 190 if ur 170 right now when u get done
roidsandrageOkay sounds good ill hold onto all this sus and deca for now then and make an order of test cyp on Muta's websites
Sust n deca is literally like cycle 5 or more. Glad you're rethinking this! A base cycle is easy and like he said the pct means everything from recovery to not losing your balls by 30. No joke
First cycle ever and you give him jacked up info like 750 of sust per week? Holy fksticks!!
DO NOT DO 750 OF SUST!!! TEST E/CYP AT 500!!!!
roidsandragealright man sounds good thanks for the help ill drop the deca
Run the sust two shots a week, and only the sust for the first time. Save the deca for the second cycle or maybe third would be better, and dose that at 2 grams of deca per pound of bodyweight for first time. Meaning you weigh 170lbs so you would want 340 mg of deca per shot. So about 1 1/4 cc of the deca but only on your second or maybe your third. As far as waiting that is your own decision, you are 21 and an adult. PCT should be 100mg of clomid first week along with nolva at 50 mg for two weeks, then drop the clomid to 50 mg on the second week. Also might want to get an AI in case gyno flares up, such as Arimidex or Aromasin. Never run nolva with deca, so if you do decide to run deca in a future cycle DON'T USE NOLVA FOR PCT!
sus only and i promise u wont be dissapointed.. make sure u research a few hours and cme back with cycle detailed with pct and ai
I hope to not see you advising a first cycle of sust ever again!
Anonyou're encouraging someone that is barely old enough to buy alcohol to run a cycle?? -1
roidsandrageokay sounds good ill do a bit more research and be back with my new cycle post
roidsandragethe reason i want to start using aas is because at 5'6 170 pounds i feel i have reached my natural limit and need and extra push if this is such a bad cycle can anyone give me a better one?
It does sound like you're damn close to the natural limit. Im not your mom and you're an adult it's your choice. AAS early is tough on you're hormone system down the line. Research a good PCT by cdaddy on here. As for a first cycle sounds like your training and diet is great if you are truly at your natural limit. 500mg of test E per week divided into 2 shots. Run it for ten weeks. Be careful man research good Post-cycle Therapy on here. Good luck brotha.
roidsandragethanks buddy really helpful
It's sounds like your absolutely dead set on it. I'd PREFER you not do anything for a while, BUT I CANT let you listen to some idiot in the gym who advised you to do deca. Be careful man.
You are no where near your natural potential, lol. You are still full of natty test. You need to change up the diet and exercise. Your body may have just become accustomed to your training and eating.
You're gonna do what you're gonna do, but if you research the site there is a whole section on your first cycle along with pct and ai.
Deca...no...just no. 5'6 170lbs and 9% either damn good genetics or under-estimating your bodyfat. But, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Deca I'd advise against just my two cents.
Anonnot a good idea, brother... this early in your life will more than likely have you on trt before the age of 30...
Deca is a hard hard shut down of your natural test. Have you even ran a cycle before?
Horrible cycle mang. Please wait til 25. Im a midget like you....and fully know you can bulk up big with just food and not ruin your boner in future years.
FAIL.
lol
no one is going to hand you that info since it is readily available if you use the search bar. also 21 is awfully young...im not here to tell you how to run your life but i know there are a lot of guys around here that started at your age that can give you a plethora of reasons why they shouldnt have
bad cycle. bad ratio. not first cycle. What are your goals and ambition for this and what led you to AAS at 21?