-1 Sacroplex Test E extreme painful PIP
Well first a little background info, 6 feet 215 lbs around 15% bf, been training for 5 years.
Decided it was time to jump on the gear, so began researching for over a year now. Decided on my cycle, ordered sacroplex test e 250ml, dbol and pct gear. Decided on 500mg test e a week and 40mg dbol Ed. So after my first pin, my delt swelled up and stiffened up almost in a matter of 4 hours. The next day the swelling was still there and I had very limited movement and allot of pain. It took over a week to get back to normal. Time for my second injection and pinned my quad this morning, wanted to change locations to see if the or original injection just didn't react we'll to the delt. Well, it is now 12 hours from pinning my quad and I am laying on the bed with a heat pad around my quad , loaded up with Vicodin , ibuprofen , benidril and my quad is double it's original size with limited movement and a whole lot of pain. The source I bought the gear from is very reputable and I felt comfortable with my purchase. I have since emailed the source asking and inquiring about the shitty gear quality . No response yet, I will wait a few more days and see if they email me back. I am now questioning if I should stop now and bein pct in 2 weeks or try a glute shot next week using a different vail. Also stop taking dbol one week into cycle cause it fucked with my blood pressure big time. Anyone also have bad experiences with sacroplex brand test e? Also, I am open to suggestions to either quit or try a new vail.
Update# 3 a couple of things I want to get straight. Seems as though NDG has a few ass clowns trying to friend request me and get info on batch numbers and so forth. Let me state that NDG has had the opportunity to make things right but took a different route. Blaming everything except them selfs, accusing people of not spending enough money therefore they must be scamming for gear, insulting people by saying they don't know how to type in serial numbers on vials and telling people to email Sarcoplex, when they know dam well it will go unanswered most of the time. I am not here to start any keyboard wars, nor do I have the time too. I stated my problem and received some good advise from logical people who know their shit. I will come out of this situation learning allot. The most important thing is never to order from NDG and I am going to go with pharma grade gear.
Came to a point where I have to either stop and begin PCT or continue and run the gear for 6 more weeks. I want to make things straight, I AM NOT question weather the gear is real, I am questioning the BA And BC content and its reactions and mixture. For those who had success with Sarcoplex then I applaud you and wish you continued progress.
Update # 2 since my last post pinned again and dam swelling and pain started again. 1ml glute shot, dam this is frustrating. I think I'm just going to call this quits..
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You should not have chucked it... but whatever floats your boat. There will always be less PIP in your glute. Less pain sensors there. Also this time you used 1cc instead of 2cc. TBH you should've started with 1cc in your glute then moved to Delts and Quads. Quads are known to cause PIP even with the best of gear. And shooting 2cc into your Delt, well that just explains itself about why you got pip and discomfort. If you think that vial is junk, so be it... but we all told you to try your glute and shoot less and guess what? No pip.
Anonyou and i could neg or +1 him all day long. until we reach 50 karma ourselves, those points are rudimentary at best.
AnonThanks for the reply.. Just to clarify a few things , just throwing it out there. 1. I use 1 1/2 inch 23G Needles for glute, 1 inch for delt and quad.
2. I heat the oil for 5 minutes before loading it up, 3. I take a minimum of 1 minute per CC while injecting 4. I jab in quick and aspirated for injection. I have narrowed it down to a few possibilities. 1. Too much oil at once (2cc) 2. Needle guage to thick 3. BA to high 4. Bad batch
So, tomorrow I'm going to use a different vail of the same product and shoot 1cc in glute using the same protocol . If a get swelling , extreme pain and thightness , then it only comes down to one thing. Dirty Gear... Thanks for your insight and suggestions, I am a NewB and appreciate knowledge from people who know their shit..
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkIt's not bad gear. I started in my glute and the same thing happened. I swole up and was hard and had trouble sitting on that side. then I pinned in my delt and was alittle better after a couple of wks. now it's alittle sore for about a day. evrybody is diff. don't blam the gear. I can also tell you that the steadier your hand the less painful it is .
lol your good bro my first cycle was with sarcoplex test e and that shit is FIRE!!! make sure when you pin to inject slowly and pull out slowly.injecting fast could create abscess. same thing happen to me first time bro injected delt and could not move it for atleast 2 day and thought the injection site got infected started freaking out
AnonThanks for the reply.. I heard there test e was good also from the research I did. I'm gonna give it one more try on Monday but 1cc this time to the glute and another 1cc on Thursday . I'm curious to see if my body is going to adapt..
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkYea for sure no more than 1cc at a time, personally i inject e3days but your muscles will develope a "tolerance' if you will, my first shot put me out of the gym for a week, but after that ur muscle gets used to it. Its not the sarcoplex, if it checked out on the website then uve got the best gear money can buy man for real.
AnonSo, because I injected 2cc of test in my quad, it would swell up twice it's size , give me extreme pain, disable me for two straight days and after all that I shouldn't question the gears quality? Mind you this happened twice with the same outcome. So from what I've learned , the delt and quad can't handle more then 1cc of test, I should split my dosage to twice a week and start pinning glute.
AnonOr, you could split your doses between two barrels and pin half in two separate spots. Not saying it is or isn't the gear. But, I can def relate wih you on the extreme pain. Happened to me when I started out, and my shit was liquid gold. Should have seen how funny it was watching me climb in and out of my truck. Gotta bust that cherry somehow.. Before discounting the gear, invest the $60 in the blood work. This way, if it is the gear, you'll know without speculation. And if it isn't, these guys can help you get on track without you having to go out and replace all your gear. $60 or the entire stock? I'd spend the 60 bro
AnonThanks for all the replies , the heating pad really helped. Left it on all night and swelling is down 80%. Today's back and bi day, so it will give the quad some rest.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkAnoni can remember when i first started. i fucking slept with a heating pad and took ibuprofen and vicoden like candy. try familiarizing yourself with the capacity of the individual muscles to take substances via IM injections. knowing and staying within those limitations can help to avoid some of your "reactions". regardless, you can expect a noticable amount of discomfort until the muscles adapt.
AnonHow many injections did it take for your body to adapt to the substance?
AnonReally don't remember that detail. I pinned glutes only EOD. Eventually they just took it better. Your injection speed plays a role in the pip outcome as well. The faster you inject, the greater the likelihood. If that's too difficult, go with a smaller pin. Fast and I were talking about this the other day. He uses 25g pins. This creates a smaller puncture as well as restricting the flow rate of the liquid.
First time I pinned it was test suspension. My glute swoll up and was sore for more than a week. I even tried mixing with an oil later on. Still swoll so bad it was almost comical. Honestly, even today I tend to get a lil pip depending on the compound or the quantity pinned. It's not so bad that I can't sleep or need a heating pad.
Sounds crazy but I have had bad reaction to there test e as well as three other legit labs. Use cyp bro you probably be good to go.
I've gotten PIP from Doctor scripted US pharma Test Cyp before. It seems we all forget that we are injecting a foreign substance deep into muscle tissue which nature never intended for. There are so many variables that can trigger PIP. Injecting 2ml into a virgin delt muscle (500mg of Test E) WILL GUARANTEE pip including inflammation and fuck knows what else. OP should be happy this didn't turn out worse. All said and done... I really don't see this as a negative indicator of Sarcoplex's gear purity. I've jabbed their NPP without experiencing ANY pip.
Tru that bro.
Anongood point about foreing substances
Maaan first time ever pinning and blaming the gear being dirty ? you really shouldnt make affirmations like these...
AnonJust virgin muscles bro. We all go thru it when we start out. Just takes time to adapt. My ole lady is a nurse and she gives me my shots. According to her: the size of the muscle determines the amount of medicine it can take IM at one time. Delts should be limited to 1cc, quads 3cc, as glutes up to 5cc.
God damn boy, 2cc right into virgin delts, then banged another 2cc into quads. 1st and 2nd injections ever. I've had some experience with Sarcoplex gear and it is HIGHLY unlikely the reaction you're explaining is from "dirty" gear! The fact that your delt returned to normal in a week says a lot. Try 1ml into your glute, see how that feels, make sure you follow all the steps warm oil, inject slow, apply pressure, don't massage etc. I honestly feel that its fucked up that you are accusing this lab of being dirty when you don't seem to know the first fucking thing about PIP.
You can get away with 2cc in your glutes and not deal with much pain, but if you wanna use delts and quads, stick to 1cc at a time in those muscles. To get your 500mg/wk, pin 1cc monday morning, and then another 1cc on thursday night.
AnonU could be injecting to fast. Are u shakeing and moving the needle around alot or it could be its cause its ur first time pinnin all ur muscles u pin for the first time can get really sore for a few days.
It was his first time pinning and he put 2cc into a delt, then after that caused him great pain, he went and pinned 2cc into a quad.
Also, whats your ai and pct? Since you've got folks helpin
AnonPct .5 aromasin eod. Nola and clomid will be run 2 weeks after last pin.
You mean adex at .25e3d? Thats the normal adex dose. Aromasin is 12.5 Ed when estro pops up.
Clomid 100...100...50...50
Nolva 40...40...20...20
AnonDam ipad, Nolva !! Sorry for some mis spells
FIRST CYCLE. = the first time oil has been injected into your muscles... your bodys like wtf? OUCH. it gets better.
AnonHopes so brah... I have been hobbling around work today and told everyone that I have a knee injury.. Lets see if week three brings better results.
Not following your story. You pinned all 500 into delt? Pin size? Procedures used? First cycle? SaRcoplex has great rep but need info...
AnonLast week 500 mg into delt and today 500 into quad. Used sterile procedures using a 1 inch for delt and 1.5 inch for quad. Hope this helps ..
Only 1cc into delts. I use 1 x 25 for wuads and delts. So much oil and virgin muscles....oh yess! Bigtime. You also missed a few tricks of no pain.
Click on my name....cluck my forums.....ways to avoid pip. Tons of info from me and others to help. Pm me if ya need help bro...or any other vet...post etc. ventro glutes are usually most pain free but i like quads too
AnonThanks sir, I'm getting a tad bit frustrated at this point. I will try glute next week
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkRead the forum and it will help lots. I understand frustration too. The nagging pip just gets the blood boilin. Pin mon/thurs and it'll def help ya.
ur shooting once a week? shoot 2wice.
X2! I popped 1.5 into delts last week. Faaak! Not really pain as much as pressure
ahh been there..
theres been a couple reports of their latest batch causing alot of pain.
latest batch of Test E by Sarco? You sure you aren't confusing anther lab? I'm honestly curious. I've held Sarco in high regard... with all the care they put into their packaging and product it would be a HUGE surprise if this was the case.