+ 2 low test high deca moderate dbol
So i have a friend who ive been training at the same gym with for a few years now. He is a legit personal trainer and a knowledgable dude when it comes to gear and training. This guy is running test @ 250mg week and deca @ 600mg week with 20mg of dbol ed. Hes running the dbol for 8 weeks. OH MY GOD! This man is turning into arnold! He is loving every second of this stack. He vascular, hes full, round, stronger than a bear, hes functioning sexually. This dude looks awesome and has blown the fuck up i tell you in 6 weeks!! He said his strength is better now than when he ran test and tren e at 600mg each. He said he feels great and can still get down with the ole lady whenever he likes. Hes running a very small dosage of AI and running pharm grade caber. This will be my next stack! If you read around, you will learn that arnold and those guys rarely ran high test. Their cycles almost always included a low dose of test.
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tread-mThe ratio being "proper" was always used primarily for non-caber users. I prefer caber in the 19 runs low dose period but with this ratio the only real issue would be prolactin so by satisfying that the run should actually just continue to be effective. To continue the caber dose post cycle while the prolactin is "put in check" should make the post cycle a non-issue as well. Many talk about the "hard shut down" with deca but if you look around there are people that have ran deca without caber low dosed and even though test had returned to normal l?ater sex drive issues continued. Usually you can have that person rjun a simple 2 week low dose caber protocol and put the prolactin back in normal check and sex drive is right back in order. So deca may not necesssarily be quite as "hard" of a shutdown as many think, although it is a hard shutdown. Pretty amazing bhow certain rules can be bent so to speak when one has a firm grasp and cause and effect in total with there compounds and knows how to capitalize on the positives and overcome the negatives.
sounds amazing. thats my goal bro. arnold physize for sure. mini arnold would be cool too!!!
thanks for posting this up. I do think the deca is high but what the fuck to I know. I have been told 2:1 test deca but everybody is different.
somthing to ponder for my next cycle for sure bro!!!
the deca to test ratio is always test higher, however I have read many threads that guys claim to be fine with this very kind of cycle. I tried a test deca cycle some time back where i ramped my NPP dose up from the traditional bro knowledge of 2 to 1, to 1 to 1. I think it was 900/900, and although I was able to operate sexually i did notice that it was much more of a challenge to get there and my desire was not as high as normal. best bet for a cycle like this is to find out where YOU stand with the compound, run with short esters and try to get in and get out unless your already TRT. I say get in and out cause first run of deca you might find out that recovery isnt as easy as other compounds, the longer your on the harder it is to recover. Of course we see another guy getting great gains we want to do it to, but like it was said below, see how well he recovers. I would suggest the same cycle if thats what you want to do but with NPP and prop for 8 weeks and d-bol for 6. this way if you start with high deca and it aint working a few days later you could have it fixed, and you can adjust several times in this cycle to see what numbers work for you so that future long estered cycles arent crash and burns.
The true test will be when he comes OFF... Its not the gains you make its the gains you keep
But the brother seems to be locked in! : )
zewiyes low test should always be low.. for that type of gain. Test should only be high for bulking. Also next time he runs tren the test needs to be lower. to really see how the devil works.
Bostonbro he is bulking and its clear that hes bulking. Amazing size hes getting from the low test high deca. We'll see what happens when he drops the dbol. Btw, hes running 15mg per day of the dbol lol. Very low dose. I thought it was 25 but i just talked to him and its 15mg.
dude at 12.5 dbol i felt like throwing the elipiptical through the roof!!!!!
zewisWifeIt's all dbol.. wonder how much he will loose.. that's why back in the 60 70s they never got off this cycle.. if he gets off I will bet he looses 40% and 15-30% strength.. that doesn't happen with a correct Tren cycle