posted Sat, 10/20/2012 - 06:26
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Alcohol VS. Orals: the effects on your liver/kidney.
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I was at the gym talking to a guy who is all against AAS, telling me the whole lecture about how they hurt your kidneys, liver heart etc etc, but then he started talking about how drunk he has been getting in parties. (thinking about orals), I told him, if your going to put stress in your liver/kidneys why not get BIG doing it but my argument was weak as I didnt know how much stress these two drugs put on your body, bringing me to this: How can you compare drinking alcohol and taking steroids (specifically orals) to the stress in your liver/kidney?
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cdaddy7Yes alcohol is worse in the long run bc it destroys liver tissue and it deposits fat on the liver....the oral AAS are methylated compounds that survive the first liver pass so the compound is not destroyed or weakened shall I say...but the downside to it is that it causes a major stress on ur liver trying to break it down that it throws ur enzymes off and can cause hepatic impairment and juandice in some cases...that's the importanance of supp to protect and support healthy function....and its reversible....alcohol Is different bc fatty liver disease, hepatitis, and cirrhosis is not....that's why we tell u don't drink while on oral...just look at both and put them together....ur killing liver tissue and jacking up the enzymes too....makes for a very bad recipe....now it is way way more complex than that bc of the pathophysiology so I'm not goin into that but u get the jist of it....both are bad and even worse together....drinking alone is counterproductive in weight lifting or bodybuilding just for the estro issues it helps along....Methylated oral only need to be taken 4-6 weeks pending there hepatoxicity but u must use liver support to reduce the possible troubles.....as for alcohol if u can have a drink or two and quit well there u go, but most do not.....in the cases of your young gym idiots getting blasted well u see if they are still around in a few years....in the gym I mean and watch and check that progress....chances are they will b right where they are strength and size....I bet they don't diet either so there u go....just keep doing what your doing so long as It's the right and safe way and let ur results shine brother
from my experience with orals and alcohol. i can vouch with orals being far worse i ran a 3 week prohormone about 5 years ago and ended up in the hospital with nearly having liver failure. i been drinking alcohol on the weekends for the last 3 years and my liver panels came back normal. thats just my experience though
what prohormone was it?
Alcohol Is worse.
Even if there was an equal amount of AS users to alcohol users there would still be way more deaths to alcohol.
Poison is in the dose but I still think orals are less harsh than alcohol
You can't really compare this. Well, you can but its pretty pointless. Both are hard to defend in terms of health. Both can be used sensibly and both can be abused.
Would like to hear more on this..