tellolade's picture
tellolade
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Does anyone else have this problem

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Pharma products work like magic but ug stuff just gives u major pip flu symptoms?
I used pharma products in the past with great success but the ug stuff just screws me up. What could the problem for this be?

jimmie's picture

I think the flu symptoms you are referring to is "test flu". I believe that's just caused by spikes in hormone levels, not a difference in the cut of the test you are using. You need stable levels and you won't get sick. It happened to me once when I switched, yes brands, but also concentration. As far as the pip goes, could be the difference in oils used, or even again the concentration. You hit with 1cc of test e 200 and then 1 cc test e 400, the pip will be different. Also, if you are using the same site, or the same length of needle in the same site, or too short of a needle... so many variables.

Do your research, FR and PM sources and find out which oils are used, you will find out which oils your body doesn't like.

Cheatnnature's picture

Def switch it up. Run into the right ugl u will be more than satisfied.

HllwdBdBoy's picture

Then go back to pharma... Problem solved

fast48's picture

Its a molecular issue. Smile

fast48's picture

X2!

dman300's picture

could be the carrier oil bro. U could be allergic to EO or guaiacol or whatever the specific ugl uses.

fast48's picture

X2! Change ugl brand. Some brewers on here use the MED GRADE carrier oils. Research..easy to find if you know med grade oil.

fast48's picture

Those brands use EO. Solvent. Find non eo oils. Problem cured.

NO BRAND TALK ON FORUMS. mods will ding you.

nerdmuscles's picture

all juice is made in a compounding pharmacy. Generally the only differnce between UG and Pharma Grade is the recipes that are used and perservatives. And one is in a kitchen in a house and the other is in a lab that someone paid millions of dollars to set up.