posted Mon, 10/08/2012 - 07:52
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Is it the accessibility? Impatience? Impetuousness of youth? The more is better attitude?
Why are straight up test only cycles getting snubbed, overlooked or looked at as a lesser cycle?
You can yield GREAT results from simple test cycles for years and obtain a wide range of results from cutting to lean gains to bulking through manipulating diet and training.
The knowledge gained through understanding your personal body responses to specific diets and training routines will be far more valuable to you than compounds if you choose to play the long game.
But alas, it seems that instant gratification and leap before you look are the flavors of the day. :(
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Nice post... True, true, true... The mindset of the the more anabolic substances taken the bigger you will get, is not a good place to be! I agree diet bro it's everything! Not how much oil you can dose. Right On Bro!
JohnnyBlackIts just young people complex combined with the more the marrier complex i believe. More and more people are turning to AAS as the golden "answer" to there problems. I know a fair amount of people personally who take AAS as a SUPPLEMENT to nutrition and workouts... Even myself i used AAS to early just for this reason. And i started before i knew 1/100th of the information i should have known. Testosterone is the base to every cycle and it is a extremely powerful compound. People start to just think of it as the "little thing in a bigger cycle" which shouldn't be the way. Just my 2 cents.
Good post, man. I just started researching AAS two years ago. I remember (before that) people saying they could "get me roids" and asking me "what kind" I wanted and all this. One dude tried selling me 3 mL of Test C 200mg one time for $30. -___- Said I should buy it and use it as a sample and then buy more if I liked it. Wtf. Like it is cocaine or something.
It is ugly out there for the young folks, man. The legal issues make it hell to truly become educated. Honestly, if not for Eroids, I probably would have ended up doing some dumb shit (eventually... Def was not jumping at it or anything) and hurting myself. The internet is all some of us young dudes have. I am just glad I put it to use.
I just started my first cycle. It will be only 2 weeks tomorrow. 500mg Test E per week. Switching between quads for injections on Sunday nights and Thursday mornings. I am taking .25mg of Arimidex EOD (was going to wait until like week 4, but I noticed some nipple sensitivity when I was doing weighted situps in the gym today) starting today. I also have about enough Clomid and Nolva waiting for me for PCT for two separate cycles. Shit, I actually have even more of the Nolva because I wanted it on hand in case some crazy gyno shit went down or something. Idk. Surely will not need it, but better safe than sorry!
Anyway, sorry for such a long post... But, my point is that some of us are smart enough to realize we are not smart enough to do things without advice from suitable sources. I plan to have a very successful cycle, and I also plan to wait out my time + PCT before even considering a second. That knowledge does not come from randoms in the gym. That comes from all you guys. Thank you, Eroids. Thank you all.
wish i had known about this site before starting AAS , would of been better informed, i hope kids out there who read this listen, thanks brother
Alot of people take the plunge into stacking when they arent sure at all what the 1st compound does. I love and hate at the same time to see these guys come in and get so impatient that they arent getting the results fast enough and instead of focusing on trial and error with their dieting, seeing what is going to work for them, they go a different route and start jacking up their doses and then seeing what else they can mix in their to "get their swole on". That just goes back to the maturity side of this and relizing they have to crawl before you can walk, I am dont as fluent in the medical terminology side of this but I have spent countless hours learning myself and how to safely achieve my goals. just because some of these guys can mimic what some of our vets here have said in the past doesnt mean you have the knowledge to start stacking compounds. Like hollywood has said 1000x's here your gains come from the kitchen and getting proper rest. How many of you guys have spent as much time researching your diet as you have put into "giving people advice here" or better yet researching your next cycle. Give the other side a try and I promise you you wont need as much steroids and you will get much more substancial gains that wont disapate the moment you go off cycle
CleyonThis is part of the instant gratification mentality. I suffer from this as well as the next person, so I'm not hating. When I first got put on TRT I expected to watch the fat fall off and muscle pack on almost instantly (you know took that first shot, and then watched myself in the mirror for 10min waiting to turn into Captain America), well it took time to see anything happen, but it taught me a lesson.
Even on 200mg/wk of test Cyp the changes started to happen. When I did my first Test only cycle again it took a while to see any changes, but when they happened I felt like I had worked for them (which I had). Same way I feel now, it's good to be able to know that you are doing things right and that if you stick with the program you've outlined in the long term you will see the results.
my 1st 2 cycles i ran test cyp at 250 mg per week and everyone wanted to clown me cause I appartently wasnt using enough lol, it was all fun and game until I shot up over 40 lbs from a single compound test cycle lol, now whose polishing the helmet of the baby holding the apple nooka!!!! good post hollywood
Boom!
On a test enanthate run again for my 3rd cycle. First two cycles were test enanthat only and I made amazing gains both cycles so figured why stop? 27lb first cycle, kept 20. 20lb second cycle kept 15. Just started this one. I'm of the K.I.S.S. mentality -- keep it simple, stupid. I never understood why people go nuts their first few cycles. Diet+test is all u need as a beginner.
Long game mentality my man!
I myself found it impossible to grow my arms even with all the cals and protein..I would get strong but never really put size on them until i started stacking other compounds with test as my base always..Must be genetics.
AnonI guess someti,es people forget that test is super important and is fine alone! the whole idea of test base should tell you its a potent muscle building compound!
i was just thinking about this myself. im seriously considering a test only cycle for this next ebc. 800mg a week.. i will let my diet dictate my gains.
Every few cycle I like to throw in an all test 12 week run and man am I always surprised at how good my gains are. Still can't figure out why so many have this false sense of the more compounds per cycle the better the gains.
Whatever Hllwd...
Test only cycles are for pussies who can't live life without the ability to have an erection, and pussies that are afraid of a little bitch tit and heart problems and I've got news for you, I'M NOT A PUSSY!
I run 20 week blast TREN ONLY cyles and eat hamburgers and pizza for my protein! What now? The only AI I know is ASS INTENSITY! YEAH!
Who cares about getting a boner any more. More control for me. No lady will ever own me again!
Peace out Hllwd.
Love Ed. No homo
jek555Lol this is funny cuz u say tren only and tren only would give you Ed them u say love Ed haha ur to funny man
Lol. You see for me ED doesn't stand for Erectile Disfunction. It stands for Erection Denial. I decided long ago that no longer would I let my boner control me.
jek555Or erectile defiance:)
I'll pluck your rubber band for you Ed (no homo... really)
I know brother. That's what I love about you. Always willing to think of others first.
Go hard or go home mofo. Erections are overrated anyways.
Hell Yeah! I haven't had a boner since 04 and I'm doing just fine. How much money do I spend on women? NOTHING! That all goes to TREN!
Haha.
Haha.
Definitely impatience...i suffer from this. Just finished my first cycle and know i should prob run the same thing in a few months when im ready....but i want to throw EQ in there sooo bad. Its just that we see so many other posts about these other compounds that yield great results so we want to try as well. Im gonna run another 12wk test cycle again, but should i up the dose at all or just keep at 500mg?
Dumb kids who want it all over night. They seem to think that more compounds means more results. VIKE says it best....no long game for these folks. This is a lifestyle, you gotta commit, eat, sleep & breathe it. It's a marathon not a race.
Good post H. +1
People forget just how well a simple cycle works.
***Answer will be... there will be NO long game for these people!
Same Gist as my rant last night about AI and PCT. Simple is always better. FOOD is always your control. Yo wanna cut...eat clean...bulk just carb the hell up. Folks see freddy dumbass on tren and put on 35lbs and just wanna be like freddy. THey dont realize all the bodyparts currently NOT working. LOL