New cycle, Slightly a Rook to this new run
So this is my 5th run of a cycle of any kind in over 5 years. Im 205 work out 6 days a week 24 eat about 3000 cals a day and details can be elaborated later. Im used to running sus and anavar. Was never trying to get huge but to gain strength and endurance(which i did every cycle). This time I'm switching it up. I want to go with 300ml tren E a week, 50mg D-bol, and 500ml of Test E. Ive done a lot of studying on all these and if I'm right ill get to the goals i want in a 8 week cycle. Goals being about 220 12% body fat. Im just wondering should i switch up the ratio on the tren and test cut something out or add something in longer or shorter cycle. Trying to cut back on the side which i know are almost inevitable. Little advice for a Rookie. Thanks!
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cdaddy7Here's an option to P...but I like his combo too!!! This is a very simple cycle to with a kicker and taper which I'm fond of when running right into PCT...to me it makes the ride in smoother
Week 1-4 Test P @100mg/EOD
Week 1-12 Test E @500mg/wk split
Week 12-14 Test P @100mg/EOD
Arimidex .25mg every 3 days starting no later than week 3
Start PCT 3 days after last Test P shot
Aromasin EOD 12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25
Clomid daily 100/100/50/50
Nolvadex daily 20/20/10/10
TREN not Teen lol. damn MAC
My past cycles....... sus 500 a week 13 weeks, 2- test e 500/week 12 weeks, 3- Sus 500week anavar 60mg aday 10 weeks, 4 which was 8 weeks ago test E 600 week and anavar for i think it was 12 weeks.
Im not set on a 8 week cycle. i have, or will have(already on its way), 15 weeks worth of teen at 350 a week, 13 weeks of d bol at 50mg a day, and 18 weeks of test e at 500 a week.
i def know i need more reading and I read and research every chance i get. I researched these one specifically due to popularity, results and sides. Im iffy on the tren but always liked the results on a few people i know. I feel my diet is good, i was lazy for afew weeks after my last cycle do to some work issues and divorce but i been preparing for a cycle like this for about 3 weeks now(well i think i have). My diet i feel is in check at about 4500 a day(haven't started that diet yet, but have done it). I have a PCT in mind but need help there also never really had a real good PCT plan in the first place from my last cycles. Dont bash me too much. and PM me if theres some good details on a cycle/diet/PCT
Sadly though my gear is bought and on its way and i plan to use it some how even if it is down the road.
I like your attitude bro, just slow down a little and save the tren for the future
Have a read through: http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/better-basics-for-the-n...
I will step out now bro... he is in good hands with you! try to get him to run the test with maybe his d.bol as a kicker ..you agree?
Save the tren for down the road.
Ok Vike, let's do it!
Here's a great cycle layout for you to follow bro:
Week 1-4 Dbol @ 50mg ED
Week 1-12 Test E @ 500mg/wk
Week 4-all the way up until you start your PCT -your AI (Aromasin 12.5mg EOD/Arimidex 0.25mg E3D)
Start PCT 15 days after last shot.
Clomid 100/100/50/50
NOVA 40/40/20/20
correction i have Anastrozole 1mg tabs
Anastrazole is the trade name for Arimidex (same product)
So when and how and with what,(next cycle if possible), can the tren be used. Its a good product(expensive too) and don't want it to waste.
Touche'
I like it. i got arimidex coming, but there in 1mg tabs any suggestions on splitting them? and is it both aromasin and Arimidex or one or the other. And can you explain the PCT better. I get the clomid and NOVA jus the dosing i don't get. and can i ask why not run the dbol longer.
I use a straight razor to cut them in half/quarters - old school style
Arimidex OR Aromasin (stick with adex since you already have some on the way)
PCT:
Nolvadex - PCT WEEKS 1 AND 2 - 40mg ED / PCT WEEKS 3 AND 4 - 20mg ED
Clomid - PCT WEEKS 1 AND 2 - 100mg ED / PCT WEEKS 3 AND 4 - 50mg ED
Keep dbol at 4 weeks, keeps stress on your liver minimal and use liver support alongside it. Also, by week 4, the test e should be kicking in/already kicked in
Thats it perfect cycle with PCT built in.... NICE brother job done here it dosnt need to be messed with anymore +3.
I really like that thread. I think the best link they have on it is the 1st one.
You have chosen the wrong esters for an eight week run bro... i would suggest you go back to the drawing board seeing that you like to research and forget tren at your age,there are numorous cycles we can give you that will give great results with very few sides if done correctly.
X2.
At 24 years old, leave the tren alone.
Well if u want those results u need short esters, 4500 cals.. 5 days in gym not 6, u will burn to many cals working out that much..
Try test prop 150 mg eod
Tren a 100mg eod
4500 cals
5 days a wk gym
Proper pct
Nova 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Ai Ed,eod depends on what u take..
I would strongly advice against all of what you have said bro.
Diet is key - nail the diet, training and recovery before you hit the heavy compounds. IMO, tren is for a person with a cycle history of 10+ cycles under their belt. This person needs to do their research, a lot of research before he begins his cycle - any why not start with a simple test only cycle? The last time he cycled was 5 years ago, and who says his gains can't get him where he needs to be with a simple test only cycle and a correct diet
+3 bro
Okay we'll I misunderstood, thought he meant he has done five cycles in five years. I agree 100% on the tren idea to wait, but we also know that people have shit there not going to wait. But if he hasn't bought it then I wouldn't buy it. I would and I say I because a lot of people are hard headed and I'm up for advice from anyone but I would just run a test prop 1-5 wks along with test e 1-12 wks.. Pct and see if those gain were good before adding in other compounds but he's past that point and already wanting to try and do tren.. So I have him the option of tren a because he can control the side unlike tren e at 300mg a wk.. I wouldn't run tren to try and gain size, I would run eq,deca, npp, .. There's a lot this guy needs to learn and I only gave him a idea of a cycle because it see,s like he is set on tren..
Dbol will put a ton of water on u, so if u don't care about water and joint pain go with abombs
Slow down brother - more research is needed
Running long estered compounds for 8 weeks is simply inefficient/ineffective.
Where's your AI, PCT?
Why not run a test only cycle?