+ 3 WORRIED ABOUT GETTING BUSTED?
A lot of you guys use pretty good judgement when interacting here on eroids---You keep your personal info personal, you keep your steroids use to yourself, you keep ancillaries on hand just in case, and you keep a good lawyer on retainer when you're on cycle.
But lets examine the risk of online steroid purchases for a moment, and I'd like to do that by playing a little game. I would like to get a good picture of just how many people get busted for buying gear online, and I would like you to post a link to the news story so we can verify. I know not every bust is going to get a headline, but I think the arrests and stories of arrests for online steroid purchases is as overblown as steroids themselves.
I honestly don't think this entire forum can even show me ten busts for online steroid purchases....In fact, I don't think we can find 5 SUPPLIERS who have been busted for selling gear. WE HAVE NEARLY 800 SUPPLIERS LISTED HERE!! It doesn't appear the DEA is very good at what they do.....800 dealers----5-10 busts in 10 years????? MILLIONS of users-----and this is all they come up with??
Look it's good to be cautious, but don't go wacko worrying about your door getting kicked in. If they wanted you, you'd be gone. Come on here and make a threat against Barry-O and see how long before you've got suits all over your ass.
So show me the beef---where are all the busts for online steroid purchases?
Remember---I'm talking about online busts---not a guy who got busted at the YMCA or some baseball player. And I don't want speculation---I want LINKS and verification.
I bet you can't as a group, show me more than 10.
If you're a DEA agent reading this, you need to be fired...seriously. And in any other job, you would be fired for piss-poor job performance. If you can't enforce the laws you have, get rid of them,.......then get rid of yourselves.
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1jakd_hipyFucking crooks, it's like the opposite of when you ask a girl how many guys she's been with you need to divide by 5 (at a minimum)
Lol. That's awesome! I need to save that number.
Well, I can't find any. I have a few cops busted for selling in Philly most recently. A big bust here, one there, but I can't find what you asked for. No "possession" charges! I'm still looking. Nice post btw! I knew you'd come up with something!
1jakd_hipyThe only guys I know who have been popped were selling locally as well as on the internet and the local is what got them. They flaunted bought ridiculous cars sold to anyone who came up to them and were all around idiots. But even considering what they were caught with the longest sentence was 2 years. I don't want to say the operation or post a link to it cause it would give information about myself. The way I see it is with things like TOR, and a tight knit group and by tight knit I mean family or friends who are like family I don't see sources getting popped. Not to mention this site is a perfect example of it not going anywhere, it's incredible to think there are almost 800 online sources on this site alone. And with sites like the silk road taking all this heat, if the feds can't take it down they'll be busy for years with it.
Nice post!!
Operation Gear Grinder in 2005 was pretty big. The objective of that op was to sweep ugl's, primarily in the U.S. The tangential effect was that the DEA ended up seizing computers with thousands of names and addresses of individual users like us. This had thousands of bros worrying for a few years. It appears they (the DEA) never followed through on investigating any of these bros. However, I would assume all of these bros have been put on a watch list, and that today, up 50% of the names and addresses are still current. I would also venture to guess that a substantial number of these bros on the watch list are still buying gear today.
Operation Raw Deal was huge. The objective there was twofold: to target both UGL's and raw material suppliers-- primarily in China. Thousands of end-user names and addresses came into DEA possession as a result of that bust as well. Though all is quiet, it is safe to assume that all these bros are on some sort of a watch list.
The obvious question arising from Operation Gear Grinder and Operation Raw Deal is NOT IF BUT WHEN senior management at the DEA will implement a sweep that targets end-users.... not necessarily those end-users on the watch lists generated in 2005 & 2007, but end users in general. This question lingers in the back of mind as I engage the world of gear.
Here are the links.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/2007-09-24-DEA-steroid-bust_N.htm
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1110809/index...
http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/story?id=1411333#.UE_gk41lRig
Watch list? I'm def on some kind of list. They called me LOL
And so is anyone who has ever gotten a seizure letter. I've gotten several so they know I haven't stopped... Just like everyone who has ever been busted for drugs its in a file somewhere... Oh well ;)
I'm sure you lose alot of sleep over it.... Lol
Thanks for the post and the research there.
Still looking for a guy standing front of a judge for having a few bottles of gear for personal use.
Thumbs from me Bro.
AK80Probably about 20 years ago in the newspaper in Ohio I seen a couple. Just some no-name gym rat that got some from a buddy. I think he just got probation. But yeah, it's rare. Encrypted email, bitcoins, harder drugs and demonrats (I mean democrats) make it easy for us nowadays. I still still say Trump 2024 though!
http://www.basskilleronline.com/baltimore-14-2006.shtml
06 baltimore , 40 vials, trafficking using the internet. They setup a sting for one of the destined customer/dealer, arrested the man and his gf after recieving the package.
http://community.hypemuscle.com/forums/general-discussion/13758-steroid-... upstate ny. guy was buying from china and re-selling on the net.
http://grg51.typepad.com/steroid_nation/2007/03/former_mlb_pitc.html MLB pitcher got HGH off net
Than theres raw deal, and that concludes my 5 minute search..
Thanks swole...but that was 40 THOUSAND vials, and the guy was dealing. Still looking for casual users being busted, and haven't found any yet. But I remember reading about this bust here....interesting stuff.
Thumbs for the footwork....thanks
While I appreciate the post, I would suggest not poking the bear.
^ Cop ^
Did you know there is NAVY, ARMY & Marines members in here? We all need/want AAS.
Nikka please
LOL...I think if you check with Tread, the proper spelling is "Nooka".
you are prob correct. Holy shit I can see why you married grrrl did both of you want to be english professors in a former life?
The Emperor Has No Clothes??. (google it if you're not sure what that means).
We all see what the deal is, and yet remain quiet?
If LE needs my smart-ass comments to get them off their ass, they we truly are in a sad state.
Besides, the bear, apparently, is a toothless panda with a lobotomy.
I can imagine going to court, standing in front of the judge, and saying...."Your honor, I'm standing here for possessing the same substance YOU are possessing right now between your two front pockets....Here is the bottle I just picked up at the pharmacy with my new prescription. I highly recommend you and the bailiff get on TRT as well. You'll feel a lot better and your wife will thank me for it".
So we should all stand up and proclaim our love for aas?? What would that accomplish? Best case scenario nothing, worse case senario everybody agrees, its legalized and every 3 letter agency in the universe will want their piece, Awsome, now my 10ml bottle of test costs $300.00. What did I win?
What the fuck are you talking about?----I'm asking for a risk assessment---a survey of people busted for casual use, and you're worried about the cost of your test at Walgreens. BTW---Test would be MUCH cheaper if it were not illegal to possess, because anybody can make a batch in about 20 minutes.
And in case you haven't noticed, every 3 letter agency ALREADY wants their piece. If you want to sit in the shadows with your rule-governed behavior, then do just that. But don't expect me to take the same quiet ass-fucking with a smile that you do. No thanks---I'll choose to have some balls and speak up about what's wrong and what's right.
It's not about proclaiming love for AAS, it's about proclaiming a matter of justice, and all the tax-payer dollars used for bullshit enforcement, prosecutions, and witch-hunts conducted purely for publicity....think Bonds and Clemons and and Landis....Armstrong and others.
It's always the people who have the balls to speak up that benefit those that don't, because they DAMN sure won't do it for themselves.
With your mentality, you'd have a life-span in prison of about 30 minutes.
+1 brother, well said. i wish we could do something for aas and legality in this country. i mean for fuck sake, weed is legal in what 9 states now? prescription pain killers are killing people everyday, and a good percentage of those are getting them from doctors for cash. yet steroids are still the devil??! the media are a bunch of fucking idiots that will blow up anything and convince the people in this country that steroids kill. ive done my fair share of drugs, and to me the drug that messes with your mind the most during the "high" is weed and alcohol, but the senators, congressmen, cops, governors, mayors are not gonna give up their scotch or burbon they drink every night after "work". and its bullshit. im glad you started this thread so we can all see the answer to your question and what is going on out there with end users from online sources.
I understood what you were asking which to me seems silly to ask a question you already know the answer to. My comment was in reguard to what would it truely accomplish to fight that battle. I dont see a win in it for anybody. Especially the end user. As far as the prison thing goes, I'm hoping I never have to find out.
Nope...steroids will never be legal in my lifetime. But I guess it would be cool if we could just get to the point where we could at least see the witch-hunts become an object of ridicule.
Media hype will always trump common sense, and we all know politicians follow the hype.
I guess it just bothers me to personally know guys who have juiced for 30...35 years and look and feel better than the doctors who say it's so terrible.
And I can't really say I know the answer to the question. There may be a lot of casual-user busts that I'm not aware of....but I'm going with the odds here.
exactly, i dont understand how the doctors and media say "steroid" users are slowly killing themselves yet its perfectly fine for a 30+ old man to get Rx'd testosterone injections weekly or bi-weekly, and how its okay for people with aids or other health problems get testosterone and it helps them tremendously, but still for the other healthy men out there its horrible and it'll hurt your liver, drain your kidneys, fuck up you heart, make you sterile, etc. and still ive seen so many friends be on cycle and get their wife pregnant. i wish we could see it become legal, but like you said, not in our lifetime. i dont see why we cant adopt the same way the UK looked at it less than a year ago...
Hell yes! I can't give points but you get two thumbs up from me
Maybe or maybe not. Look at medical marijuana. Higher grade choices and cheaper prices. Bringing any goods to a competitive market is a good thing as long as AAS isnt under ObamaCare.
You will never hear of the common busts, only the ones that can feed the propaganda machine... Most of us have rcvd seizure letters from time to time and I even rcvd a phone call from LE telling me to cut the shit (I thought my boys were fkn with me, they weren't!) But today (especially with easy to come by scripts)the common user isn't targeted, its SRC's they want for all that tax revenue they're not getting.
Again not saying it doesn't happen but in the WAR ON DRUGS we're an asterix (unless you can feed the propaganda machine)
Exactly---If you're a supervisor with a segment of LE, you are going to go where the fire and headlines are. Every government agency is on a restricted budget now, and it's going to get worse---resources are stretched thin, and they have to prioritize things.
And you're right, I got a seizure letter myself last year.
Where were you during ORD?
I know about ORD....I know about Musclebear....I know about Uncle Z.
But where are the REST???? We have 800 suppliers here-----where are the busts???
Don't tell me about one bust every 3 years---that's SHITTY performance by any measure. If these guys had any ability to effectively take these guys down, there would be a bust per week,... minimum.
Like I said, you cant give me ten.
And keep in mind, with the RD busts, they didn't hit ANY casual users to my knowledge....same with Z....same with Bear. So we're still at ZERO.
I think the DEAs "RAW DEAL" was a big bust. I know they acquired a huge amount of data on the end users also. I would guess that the DEA would want a big shake down and not just a couple of busts here and there. Taunting them probably isn't good either.
"Taunting" is exactly what they deserve---they'll get respect from me when they earn it. They are a self-serving, headling-whoring, toothless organization that is more concerned with headlines and their own paychecks than eradicating steroids from the planet.
Why do you think they spent 4 million dollars prosecuting Barry Bonds?---then FAILED.
Then FAILED AGAIN with Clemmons after spending almost as much.
Do you think they spent 6.5 million bucks on attempted prosecutions because they're worried your nuts might shrink?
Totally agree. Look what they did to Signature Pharmacy. Because Chris Benoit killed his wife and child it just HAD to be the juice. They also went through patients personal medical files that were receiving legitimate prescribed compounds. Total disregard to the patients rights. Illegal also according to "their" law.
Yes, and now big pharma companies are pushing to have online pharmacies shut down. They want to be able to continue to make people pay outrageous prices for medications that costs a thousand times less in other countries, yet is just as effective.
And to top it off, big parma gets their materials from those very same countries...LOL
Correct. They shut down compounded HGH right after that. I still have several boxes of Signatures 6mg Somatropin. Kept em as souvenirs .
I bet your right. Since I've been on eroids Ive seen 1 post about a seizor letter from importing and one from a domestic seizor letter from you I think. These arnt even bust but I bet its a longshot that there is even 1 on here,
Sucks that In America you have the chance to be arrested just for buying some gear, glad I live in the UK!
But it's a good post that Defo makes you think!
This is intresting.Ordered alot from sites and always wondered this.
Anonwell said goth! I think peopke get noid because we are in fact doing stuff that isnt legal, but so are a million other fuckers that are still out and about! I think online is safest way imo
I agree----I think dealing out of your gym or on the street is absolutely foolish.
It's also hard as hell. I stood on a street corner for 3 hours yesterday, screaming at the top of my lungs...."KODIAK!!....I'VE KODIAK PROP HERE". The crack dealers next to me were doing great---a customer every 2 minutes. But me??? I couldn't get shit. It was probably because I'm white.
A huge Whiteboy screaming "Kodiak" in the hood. Sheeeit! You scared em off! Lmao
Anonyeah prob did like wtf look at this hug and veiny fucker
Lmao!
Anonyou know its the truth lol
Anonyeah and because the shit doesnt get you high! you knlw them crazy crackheads luke to get high as a kit and etc
yep i agree, thats one reason why the local steroid dealers dont make as much as the local drug dealers who sell the shit that gets you high. its the fact that people want to use what they bought that instant and get an effect right away, hardly no one these days wants to wait around and get results and work hard for it.
LOL!!!!....Fuckin bullshit...isn't it. Whatever happened to Equal Employment Opportunity???!!!