Brother CD. Given its you I'll lay this out for you and not him specifically given I know nothing about this brudda! First let me say , as you said for yourself to some degree, I am ever evolving with eyes wide open and very open minded. Saying that one my find that I said one thing a yr ago and something different to an extent today. Thats my willingness to be wrong giving me the ability to grow.
So heres the spill I would give you on hgh use. First of all my growth has been I believe it has more than one use. I was the first to say run for 6 months to a yr or don't run at all not too long ago. What changed that for me is a good friend here that at the time was a MOD had been discussing HGH with me. So first thing he learned is I'm long winded! Lol point for that is that I don't like answers like "this test is fing badass mofo hop up on this sheeeit and get Buuuuiiig bitchezzz". Not so much...lol. so like you I tend to want to understand something very very well thats going in my body. I want to know what it does and what it can do and are there long term negative effects etc. So before I get veered let me say this buddy swore to me, "I'm having impact from this hgh just 2 weeks in". So I'm thinking "yeah right Nooka". But again, open minded and he had experience so lets talk about this. So we do and as we do I'm researching more and finding out more about "cause and effect" in terms of the feedback loops etc. In that research I began to think, how can there be no benefit here, the body is receiving hormone via the 191 chain mimiking the bodies in responce right? So I thought deeper and researched more. I came to realize I was sort of thinking inside the box previously. No, you can't get those long term growth respoces and gh effect with short term use but there may be a short term benefit. So again I'm thinking and I'm researching and it sort of comes to me, OF COURSE THERE IS SHORT TERM BENEFIT!" .
SO HERES THE CULMINATION OF THOUGHT AND RESEARCH WITH SOME FACT ,SOME OPINION .

When you inject test into your body, and lets use suspension for the case here so we don't get into the ester issue and get lost, what exactly occurs? There is a feedback loop right? So yes the axis is independant but it is also interconnected to all other loops. So there is this loop feedback in positive mode to prompt a response of balance in the axis. So test creates the prompt and the hp begins to try and meet the demand to produce enough natty gh to satisfy actio/reaction right? Well theres aprobel here, you simply cannot pulse enough natty gh to "balance" 600 mg's of test. We call it the "HPTaxis" for a reason..."balance". So if I put 600 mg's on one side of an axis and 300 mg's on the other side and say"hey, cdaddy, bal?ance that axis for me and you have no more raw material be it gh or test how will you go about making that happen? Short of laying Ed's tiny weiner on the side of deficit you will have to discard some of the test to balance that axis right? Now yes, I understand the body is not balancing mg for mg in the hpta but you understand my point?
So my conclusion was this, hgh has two different uses (at least). One would be to balance a test cycle at lower doses of gh use not using it specifically for growth purposes but rather using it for balance and also to help reboot natty quicker via "prompt" in the post cycle. The other use is muscle growth in which case less than 6 months is silly and to get what I call the "gh effect" you need that sort of time anyway. The gh effect would be muscle and tissue growth, better skin and coologen etc etc. I don't believe those thngs are obtainable in short term use.
So barring the new/young user I say this and this will be the first time I've said this I believe in open forum. Having said so let me say, I don:t believe new/young users should consider this protocol. I believe any test cycle is more productive with low end gh use. Such as I believe you will get more out of 400 mg's of test every week with just 2 iu's of "real" growth hormone than you would with 800 mg's of test only given the "balance" is so important. That axis will not be fooled. You can have high end balance and its happy or medium or low or very high , very low, whatever, but "balance will be achieved one way ot another. As to the post cycle and this is actually all opinion. I have no research to back this up but I'm a thinker so all the mechanisms are in place for my thoery to occur (but I am open minded and gladly take debate as this is where we learn). I believe in continuing gh through the post cycle and maybe even 2 weeks beyond at low dose, you actually speed up the reboot process of natty hormone. Heres where I get the theory . You have no natty in the beginning of the post and nolva has gone to work trying to prompt LH back on line to give the pos/feedback loop to the axis to produce natty test. I believe adding an additional positive feedback indicator (with gh) actually double prompts that feedback loop and even if it does not bring it back much faster, it may bring natty back stonger earlier and may actually be a much healthier recovery in the process.
Much to think about there but let me say, I believe gh is extremely safe used properly for the need and given the proper cruise/blast doses or blast dose only for those not hrt etc. Let me add, as to your statement below "hgh can cause tumor growth". That may or may not be true but the science has not fully agreed on that and I'll explain. I could spend hours explaining hgh "propoganda" but I have done enormous research on "the research" of hgh and heres the short versionm. If you wanted to openCDaddy enterprizes and you had a product similar to one already on the market what are some of your goals to succeed against the other powerhouse company you will compete against? Well for one, you have to begin to promoe your own product and in doing that you have to tell why yours is beter than the one already available. You can do this in many ways but I'll tell you how the competitors to hgh have done it. They have gone out with intent to discredit hgh and in doing so they have funded trials at major universities and elsewhere. So if I want to discredit hgh I may want to skew the tests in my favor right? I can't have a trial that bolsters hgh over my product so I have to make sure I have the results of the trial even before it begins. in doing so I might take 1000 rats with tumors and inject 100 with a daily dose that would be considered normal dose for our purposes and then the next 100 a higher dose and so on. now by the time I treat the last 100 rats I'm shooting them full of enough gh to be considered 100 iu's ed for the relative use on humans. In my private trial I find that in the last 100 rats, yes, the gh made tumors grow. So now I know the number I need to find failure in my competitors product. Now I go to a najor unuiversity and talk with their biology depts and say I need to do a trial and will fund it. the university eager for learning, funds ands etc takes your trial. You give them the protocol of use on the subjects (rats or whatever) and have them run the trial to see if tumors grow. You of course know they will at the dose given to the university for the trial. As th trial wraps up the conclusion is exactly as you knew it would be, the tumors grew and now you have the backing of a major university trial to conclude as such when you go out to publish the findings and simultaneoulsy promote your own product. You oc course do not reveal you used a protocol in the trial that would be 100 times greater than a human would actually use because that does not serve your purpose. If I did a trial giving rats 100 ibuprofin a day and they all die is it fair for me to conclude publicly that ibuprofin is unsafe? Thats like banning baseball bats because they are killing people and not revealig the reason they are killing people is because you are beating them over the head with them. bats are not unsafe, youare unsafe! Lol my point is, non of that is science, its propoganda with motive. So as you research keep this in mind because it is out there with virtually anything you can purchase. That includes sources. Unfortunately many of the bad reviews all over the net to sources are done by their competitors to drive them down hoping to pick up some of their old business. I have referred to that in part as "the game within the game". Theres other games within those games but another time.
Btw, as I was out following money trails on trials I did find a very reputable trial university funded that concluded there was no statistical change in tumor growth when using normal amounts of gh as compared to those not using. was a very slight change by about 1/100th of a percent but well within the margin of error. My guess on that given people will argue "hgh grows cells", is that the good hgh is doing in creating cells that fight cancer will m.atch the negative it may have in the tumor growth itself actually being a wash or offset. Its like trimming a tree in the heat of summer. You do stress the trre by trimming in the heat but the benefit the root ball recieves by removing half of its work up top is offsetting and may actually be a net gai. To the health of the tree, even in the short run.
Follow the money brother, for every 1 true positive story for anything , there are 10 negative that were propoganda from competition. Let me say also, I don't want to miimize possible dangers of hgh use the same way I try not to minimize the dangers of any hormone we use, all in all I will say, "USED PROPERLY" hgh can be as safe or safer than other hormones.

Yes it does and 2iu is therapeutic so it's not going to be much more than fat burning and good skin, sleep, etc . Things like that. To build muscle you would need 6ius and up. Hgh is a wonderful compound, however if you don't respect it , then It's dangerous. You need to have blood work especially before you start and a check up with your Dr. Growth hormone makes you grow on the outside and the inside so if you have cancer or a tumor it helps it grow too. There is the T3 suppression to deal with also. Take all the precautions necessary. That's the dangerous side of ppl giving you a double edged sword for a gift. I would advise you to liquidate it for cash and buy you a really nice arsenal of juice to have for years to come rather than play with HGH.