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+ 4 23 and TRT?

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Ok guys before you vets beat me into living pulp let me explain my honest situation

I'm 23 years old. I have been working out since I was 16-17, and played ball in high school. Around when I turned 18 I got really into working out, but I was always so tired. I've always had a laid back personality so I thought that maybe it was just me. Now up until this point of course I had nev touched anything besides some muscle milk, which at the time I thought was pretty hardcore. Well as I continued to diet hard and workout hard I did have some progress. I lost about 40 pounds but no matter how hard I worked and how clean I ate I had that skinny but fat look. So after about 6 months of no progress I went to the doctor. He suggested getting my hormone levels checked. The results came back and it all made sense. At the age of 18 I had a natural testosterone level of 200. My natty free testosterone was 40. My doctor suggested hormone therapy, he suggested I tried testosterone for a short period of time, telling me it was possible to kick start my system. So I took the plunge. I did 3 months of testosterone injections got tested midway and my levels were 1000, which my doctor was cool with as long as they didn't get any higher. After the three months my doc had me on an aggressive pct. I waited and continued to work out and eat healthy. Shortly after stopping the injections I lost a lot of my gains. My doctor had the levels checked again and they came back testosterone 190 free was around 40 still I believe. So I continued to do this 3 month testosterone plan in which I would grow like a monster while doing it. (250mg a week) well here I am 23 and my levels have never improved. I have been prescribed many fertility drugs and nothing has raised my levels significantly. My doctor now suggest doing TRT therapy. Now I'm not some kid who has the lack of research, and wants to stay on test forever because it's "cool" unlike others I spend hours of time researching weekly sometimes daily. I ask many vets on here questions and they help a lot. Thanks GS, And tread you guys have helped a ton. So now I'm at the time where I think I should make the decision. My goals are not to look like Ronnie Coleman or Jay cutler, instead just to be healthy and have the results that I bust my ass for. My concerns with TRT isn't the inability to have kids down the road, which I don't want anyway, not sure if I even could because my LH levels are almost non existent naturally. My real concern is the reading that I do on this site, where guys say that if you start the test early down the road you will need more and more to grow. I've researched this and I can't find medical evidence that one needs a gram of test to grow, unless of course you are at a superhuman physique like Ronnie or jay. But that isn't my goal, but I do want a solid muscular physique year round not just while on on the test. I grow tremendously on 500mg a week and I don't plan on upping it anytime soon. So what do you vets think out there? What do you suggest? I know it's my decision but I trust many of you vets and your opinions. I think many of you know more about hormones than any doctors do. So please help a bro out. I'm open to suggestions and any advice. Thanks

SickNick15's picture

Bro it is possible that you are just hypogonadal plain amd simple. I am 23 and am on trt as well exfept i did it to mysekf. I took a lot og gear when younger and never recovered and after 2 years trying i was finally put on trt. If you have a good sex drive, erections, energy levels, etc then i wouldnt suggest it just for looking a little better because i am surethere are ways that you habe not tried yet. If however you are experiencing negative effects in all these areas and have been for some time now then your besg bet hust might be trt. I am not a doctor and i am not telling you to do trt at 23 i am just statimg my experience and opinion. Good luckman

Cam2012's picture

Lol yea bro we will see soon I'm goin hard on this pct I been joggin the beach as part of my pct change it up. Mannnnnn there are some whores.... I mean beautiful women in Florida

Cam2012's picture

Just a thought. When I was a little kid I smashed my head on a table busted my head open had to get stitched up. That was the only bad thing I can remember as far as accidents. Nothing after that until my teens when I'd constantly kicking ass or getting my ass kicked lol. Any way that could be connected? Or does the accident need to be directly related to the nuts???

Carlos Danger's picture

It's possible, the Pituitary gland is located at the base of the brain. My injuries were from 2 traumatic spinal injuries. So it doesn't have to be injuries directly to the testes.

Cam2012's picture

I'm just gonna conclude that I inhearited bitch-ness genes from my father. He's a bitch anyway lol

w1cked001's picture

I started at 24 as well before thinking of running a cycle. Only regret is not starting earlier. Had libido of an old man during my early 20s :(

Cam2012's picture

So what do you guys dose at? Or what did you dose at at 24? Have you guys gone up since?

w1cked001's picture

I'm still 24, haha. 125-150 mg test cyp/week, 1 shot. My # is in upper third, so I'm staying here for the time being.

Cam2012's picture

Fr sent bro

Cam2012's picture

Thanks you guys I love hearing all of your opinions. @zewi yea bro thanks I read that post earlier today GS pointed me to it. Very good read and great information

fast48's picture

Nice to see a full picture of everything. You know i bark a LOT but you also see dudes post one sentence. They deserved it....lol. What your asking/doing is NOT ifbb daydreams but a real fact of life outside the gym. Not directly ay you....but science is showing correlations with early pot use to lowered test for life. Back on track....you're already going the medical route. You've tried all the same methods anyone would hollar about. Without test you will have more old man issues.....BUT test is/can be a double edged sward as well with prostate(science proves how to lessen that is by frequent "release"). So yes.....for you trt seems the realworld option to quality life with/without bodybuilding. I've personally shown that no...on cycle a good run doesn't have to be mega doses. And eating correctly with a mear two cycles a year can keep you at a Nice size. Keep doing your bloids so you always know not just test/estro but liver etc. Carry on my wayward son!

Carlos Danger's picture

I told him the sme thing in PM's. Its the cruising that concerns me. Not only will he have to use ancillaries all year long but it will over time diminish his receptors ability to utilize the low doses of Test. More meds, more Test needed to grow. But I also understand what it feels like to not have enough natty test. My god I felt so tired and i gt depressed andd I just didn't even want to get out of bed. Guys on Trt can still do a modified version of PCT if for nothing more than to let the receptors take a break. But honestly I would lean toward your opinion with your medical backround.

Carlos Danger's picture

Yeah I agree, knowing how ur body works and reacts is the biggest ally we have.

Carlos Danger's picture

My Lil Homie I got to commend you on having the balls to come out and post this. Especially after what has been going on around here between the young cats and the Vets. Whether from injury or genetics or pituitary malfunction more and more young men are being diagnosed with Low T at very young ages. I also want to let the Vets know that this cat came to me with a great attitude and has yet to show me he isn't mature enough to have this conversation with. So please be nice to Cam, he really is looking for some help making the right decision. Although I believe he and his doctor should have the last say.